Right I'm off!

been lots of talk about moving boat to the eu before the end of the year , but I think that boat has sailed and unless some how France or Holland open up with the next week British boat just going to have to live with it , but it's not all that bad , for people like Cornish they can still enjoy cruising around Europe without the vat worry , just meanpopping out of the EU for 24hours .
Cornish as made the choice to hold off for a bit very wise ,
I think one the new year start we probably see places open up again .
 
Cin70 said:
Um, no . . .
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And why no? Do you really think Brit are going to be refuse travel to Europe for ever .
By the time 99 % of Brit are ready to sail to Europe it be up and running for the other one percent I be very surprise if by the end of Jan you couldn't sail to Europe .
For us in Europe last year we couldn't leave the harbour , up to now we can sail not only within the country we in but to others too although you still have to jump through some hoops
 
sailaboutvic said:
And why no? Do you really think Brit are going to be refuse travel to Europe for ever .
By the time 99 % of Brit are ready to sail to Europe it be up and running for the other one percent I be very surprise if by the end of Jan you couldn't sail to Europe .
For us in Europe last year we couldn't leave the harbour , up to now we can sail not only within the country we in but to others too although you still have to jump through some hoops
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Everybody, not just Brits have to jump through hoops.
 
syvictoria said:
The EU's border has been closed to a number (the majority?) of third countries since March, so I'm not so confident sadly.
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That's not quite correct , it was open to sailors who wasn't flyi g direct from the ban country's, in other works Australia was close to some European country but a Ozzie sailing from Turkey to say Italy was find .
This I know for a fact , as we know many many cruisers from ban countries that sailed all last ,
Three in the marina we in now .
 
In Portugal during the initial couple of month lockdown a couple of boats arrived at Nazare but crew were not allowed to get off boat. Boats radioed ahead and were directed to fuel berth. The Maritime Police took a shopping list and went shopping for the boat.

Once the boat was refuelled, rewatered and provisioned they left.

Since then boats arriving have stayed for months, at one time it was little Sweden!. There has been further lockdowns during all public holidays and then you are not allowed to travel outside your municipality. There are road blocks and checks.

I am not aware of any boats arriving during a mini lockdown.

Since then nearly everyone on the marina has obeyed 2m rule and worn masks.

For last 2 months there has been a "state of calamity" and certain municipalities named (where the Covid rate is above a certain number) and you cannot travel outside these municipalities unless you are a key worker.

Our new house build has been delayed by some 4 months by some of the workers and recently the builder himself going into 2 wk isolation but none actually developed Covid.

End result is Portugal has suffered some 6300 deaths for a population of 10.25m - as a proportion many countries wished they had similar.

I recently traveled back to UK taking 2 days but with own kettle and food did not meet anyone for 2 days, filled up at self service petrol stations, hotel had key pad reception/room allocation/room access and on Ferry I booked a cabin even though on a 7hr day sailing.

I personally believe the Covid risk is 99% personal contact and at 74 I am taking care plus taking my temperature and oxygen level daily.

EDIT - Updated number of deaths 22 dec
 
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nortada said:
Biscay during the closed season.

Whilst insurers aren’t happy with transiting Biscay, Oct - Apr, how would they view an inshore route, not more than say 20nm offshore❓

From personal experience, very doable, once you reach Camaret, all day sails down to Cap Breton, round the corner and along the Spanish coast. twice the distance, thrice the fun.

On one trip we day sailed all the way from Brest to Gibraltar - took 4 months - trip of the lifetime.

Sailing ain’t about hurrying.
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And what is more , you can spend every night in your own bed, either at Anchor or alongside a pontoon/quay. Only sailing when the forecast is favourable.
 
sailaboutvic said:
That's not quite correct , it was open to sailors who wasn't flyi g direct from the ban country's, in other works Australia was close to some European country but a Ozzie sailing from Turkey to say Italy was find .
This I know for a fact , as we know many many cruisers from ban countries that sailed all last ,
Three in the marina we in now .
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I stand corrected. As EU borders are at present recommended to be open to Australian's, that may perhaps have had a bearing in the example cited however?

The list of third countries allowed entry to the EU can be found here, for anyone who is interested:

Travel during the coronavirus pandemic
 
Cin70 said:
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That's your view , it's was The same view some had last year re 3rd world once Europe opened up people from those countries where coming in .
My view is the same will happen next year .Only time will tell which one of us are right .

What I do 100% agree with you on is , these Brexiteer are in for a shock and every thing from travel to imports is going to be much harder already some Chinese company have stop importing stuff like lithium to the uk .
It won't be that easy for us cruisers in the EU to order stuff from back home plus extra cost will be involved .

What really piss me off is comment I read the other day on another ybw thread , where the poster wrote , " this is not what I sign off on when I voted to leave "
What did they think they were signing up for?
 
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sailaboutvic said:
What really piss me off is comment I read the other day on another ybw thread , where the poster wrote , " this is not what I sign off on when I voted to leave "
What did they think they were signing up for?
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They signed up for lies. Easiest Deal, we will get Free Trade, wont be any difference, We hold all the cards,

You can write a page on the false promises that they have failed to deliver.

I think history will name this era as the "populist dark era" when corruption, lies were supreme and UK went backwards.

Unfortunately those that were lied to cant admit to being so gullible and now either keeping quiet or saying no deal is what they wanted.
 
Sailfree said:
Unfortunately those that were lied to cant admit to being so gullible and now either keeping quiet or saying no deal is what they wanted.
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Or, as some people I know, they are saying they did not vote for Brexit when I know they definitely did!
 
greeny said:
Or, as some people I know, they are saying they did not vote for Brexit when I know they definitely did!
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Your thoughts should be put in the the CA forum , but for what you want to here i am proud to be UK citizen not a German puppet .
 
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