BartW
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for a D or SD boat, its a no brainer
Retrofitting stabilisers?
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for a D or SD boat, its a no brainer
Andy Cox
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Thanks everyone for your continued input, it really is giving me a lot to consider.
My thoughts so far are that fins will provide the best all round solution and retrofitting is possible, but subject to a couple of considerations.
First, is going to be price. I've spoken with Golden Arrow this morning and am waiting to hear back with their thoughts and some basic pricing info. It's already been suggested that Humphree is likely to be a more cost effective option.
Second, is where the hell I'm going to find the space to fit them without having to completely re model the front of the engine room, as I suspect that aft of the engines is too far back.
Again, many thanks for all the helpful first hand advice and please keep it coming.
Andy
My thoughts so far are that fins will provide the best all round solution and retrofitting is possible, but subject to a couple of considerations.
First, is going to be price. I've spoken with Golden Arrow this morning and am waiting to hear back with their thoughts and some basic pricing info. It's already been suggested that Humphree is likely to be a more cost effective option.
Second, is where the hell I'm going to find the space to fit them without having to completely re model the front of the engine room, as I suspect that aft of the engines is too far back.
Again, many thanks for all the helpful first hand advice and please keep it coming.
Andy
Phildorset
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what about for a planing boat, still plenty worthwhile or not? occasionally we get caught at an uncomfortable angle to swell when anchored - is it still likely that fins are the better choice?
vas
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cannot help on the first, but regarding the second, I'm sure if you post a side elevation of the boat a few ideas could be dropped and then you open up a few hatches and see what's the space like.
There's some discussion on placement on my thread, with pics/elevation drawings of mine, JFM's, Bart's and I think SilverDee's.
Electric ones as in Bart's case are really small, cannot imagine being difficult to get them in somewhere.
Typical f/b with no aft cabin I think it's iffy if you can get them in the e/r. Must be pretty big e/r and lousy layout, else you're in danger of fishtailing (way too aft).
So maybe easier than you think, under the rearmost cabin/galley whatever you have in front of the e/r.
cheers
V.
MapisM
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No is the short answer, but it depends a bit on several factors, size and type of usage being the most relevant.
BartW for instance has a rather heavy P boat, labelled as a 70 footer but actually even larger, and which he uses mostly at D speed, with the boat purring along very nicely. In this case, fins are by far the best choice, even if strictly speaking it's still a P boat, capable of going much faster.
But the smaller the boat is, and the faster her cruising speed, the less fins are the better choice in absolute terms - particularly if your aim is mostly for zero speed stabilization, which is where gyros perform better.
BartW
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that depends,
if you are the summer holiday boater who only goes out when perfectly flat sea conditions,
and do a short blast at >30kn to the nearby anchorage, I think that a gyro is the perfect solution,
if however like us, you sail long distances, at moderate planing speed <25kn.., and you also want to sail in semi perfect conditions, or not want to be stucked in a place because of less optimal sea conditions,
or if you want to navigate in a straight line when having a big swell perpendicular on the boat direction, then there is no substitute for stabs imho
Andy Cox
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Well, we won't be fitting stabs any time soon.
I looked at the Humphree 24v system which looked great, as it is very compact and I reckon I could find room for them right at the front end of the engine room.
However, the ex VAT price of in excess of 60k for a system puts this beyond what I could afford or be prepared to spend on such a project. I can see an argument in favour of spending that sort of money if I could be sure we would keep the boat for ten years or so, but I can't be certain enough enough of that.
I think a more likely scenario would be to trade up to a larger boat with stabs already fitted and enjoy the benefits of the stabs as well as more room on board.
Cheers
Andy
I looked at the Humphree 24v system which looked great, as it is very compact and I reckon I could find room for them right at the front end of the engine room.
However, the ex VAT price of in excess of 60k for a system puts this beyond what I could afford or be prepared to spend on such a project. I can see an argument in favour of spending that sort of money if I could be sure we would keep the boat for ten years or so, but I can't be certain enough enough of that.
I think a more likely scenario would be to trade up to a larger boat with stabs already fitted and enjoy the benefits of the stabs as well as more room on board.
Cheers
Andy