Reporting Regs Update

TheBoatman

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I have just recieved this and will copy and paste for all to see. I hope this answers most peoples questions.

Peter.








6 January 2005

Government concedes to RYA legal challenge on reporting regulations

The Government has conceded to the RYA’s legal challenge to the Merchant Shipping (Vessel Traffic Monitoring and Reporting Requirements) Regulations 2004 and has admitted that to attempt to preserve the regulations is not a viable option. It has also conceded that the consultation that was required did not take place.

In response to the RYA’s actions the MCA has issued The Merchant Shipping (Amendments to Reporting Requirements) Regulations 2005. The MCA is now consulting on this legislation which, if passed, will amend the 2004 Regulations to remove the requirement for all recreational craft to report any “incidents” or “accidents” or face a fine of up to £5000.

In its consultation document, the Government has acknowledged the concerns raised by the RYA and in particular that this was a case of ‘gold plating’ of EC Directives.

The new regulations are expected to come into force this May. The reporting requirements on owners of smaller craft will then revert to the legal position prior to the 2004 regulations which excluded craft under 15 metres from any reporting requirements.


Rod Carr, RYA CEO commented “we are very pleased that the Government has listened to the concerns of recreational boater and as a result is amending the 2004 regulations to incorporate a more practical and realistic approach to the area of reporting. The success of this action demonstrates clearly the RYA’s essential role in protecting recreational boating and shows what the combined strength of 100,000 members can achieve”.

The RYA’s legal challenge however, has not ‘gone away’ but has been placed on hold until the amending regulations have been brought into force. It can be restored at any time including, if amending regulations are not made, or are unduly delayed or if a prosecution is brought under the 2004 regulations.

The RYA took legal action in November 2004 in order to obtain a Judicial Review of the 2004 regulations which came into force in September 2004. The RYA maintained that:
a. the Government had failed in its ‘duty to consult’ on the draft legislation
b. the legislation that was passed into law ‘gold plated’ the EU Directive
c. the reporting regulations imposed on smaller recreational craft were unnecessarily onerous and contributed little if nothing to safety at sea.

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For further information please contact Bethan Ancell, RYA Media Relations Officer on 02380 604 215 or 07880 744 425 or email bethan.ancell@rya.org.uk

Notes to Editors
· The RYA is the national body for all forms of recreational and competitive boating. It represents dinghy and yacht racing, motor and sail cruising, RIBs and sportsboats, powerboat racing, windsurfing, inland cruising and personal watercraft. Sailing is the most successful Olympic sport in this country and Great Britain is the world’s top Olympic sailing nation.

· The RYA is recognised by all government offices as being the negotiating body for the activities it represents. It continually fights for the rights and freedoms of its 100,000 personal members, the majority of whom choose to go afloat for purely recreational non-competitive pleasure on coastal and inland waters. There are an estimated further 500,000 boat owners nationally who are members of RYA affiliated clubs and class associations.

· The RYA also sets and maintains a recognised standard for recreational boat training through a network of 2,127 RYA Recognised Training Centres in 20 countries. On average 144,000 people per year complete RYA training courses.

· The RYA is committed to promoting all forms of boating and making them accessible to everyone. For more information please refer to our web site www.rya.org.uk

· You can find the RYA at RYA House, Ensign Way, Hamble, Southampton, SO31 4YA please visit our website and look under RYA Information for directions.

· Details of the Merchant Shipping (Amendments to Reporting Requirements) Regulation 2005 can be found on www.mcga.gov.uk
 

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Well this is a 'victory for common sense' or however the tabloids would word it.

But what annoys me is the time and effort wasted by civil servants/government/the state/ etc. in enacting this poorly thought out law and then the time and effort required to repeal it.

Its all been another waste of people's taxes.

Thanks Tony.
 

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Its a pity really.Iwas thinking of a campaign of total compliance from thousands of yachts reporting every incident would have brought home to them how ludicrous the regs would have been.

A short daysail could involve several reports if followed to the letter of the law???
 

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i love the expression 'gold plating' of EU regulations. we seem to get a lot of this, regulations which start out as sensible ideas but are blindly enforced by british jobsworths. a previous example was legislation designed to stop child labour in portugal being used here to stop kids doing paper rounds!
 

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Ah yes, the route seems to be on EC regulation:-

Rest of Europe excl UK & France .. adopts and then has pragmatic enforcement
France .. fully adopts and ignores completely
UK .. Argues obstructively and then "goldplates" in adoption and enforces 100%
 

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At the beginning of December I wrote to my MP to ask him to ask the Shipping Minister why it had been necessary for the RYA to resort to the High Court on this matter.
I have just had the reply which in true ministerial fashion answers the question he would like to have been asked instead of the one which was actually asked. Bit like the 'A' level maths candidate who was awarded GCSE in geography.
David Jamieson's reply said that the MCA "will soon begin public consultation on the reporting requirements.."
Added to so many governmental bungles recently and the spat between TB and GB can any one tell me why they are so far ahead in the polls? It can't just be because there is nobody else worth considering, can it?
 

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People were upset about this regulation because it forced all of us to report any incidents or accidents or face a fine.

So you capsize your laser in a race - you report it.
You mess up berthing - you report it
You turn your nav lights on and they fail - you report it.

I don't think anybody has a problem reporting if genuine incident happens - e.g. you suffer major damage from someone who leave the scene but these rules would have meant we all faced the prospect of filing several reports a year or being fined.
 

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Thanks Jason...if it involves incidents deemed as trivial I can understand why people are grunting about it.

On the other hand I know of owners that every year when their boats are brought in for winter storage, there has always been damage where they where moored on a swing mooring. It would seem that perhaps then although this regulation could prove to be a good idea it needs altering a little!
 
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