Reluctant as I am to start another knock a raggie Post..........Honest.

oldgit said:
Why are they they so carp at parking ?
Spent the weekend in Ramsgate.
Almost without exception any yacht arriving eventually would involve half the marina doing all the stuff that any self respecting boater should do on his own.
Most could not park a boat for toffee.
On arrival ropes still coiled up,fenders still stowed (both of them) people dashing all over the boat not doing much really and every one within in range of being hit wondering wether to abandon assisting and nipping off to protect their own boat.
All very amusing ....but really. :)
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Must be regional. I've just spent the weekend in Lymington and my experience was the opposite, with a few exceptions. RIBs in particular seem to defy all the usual rules of tying up.
 
oldgit said:
Why are they they so carp at parking ?
Spent the weekend in Ramsgate.
Almost without exception any yacht arriving eventually would involve half the marina doing all the stuff that any self respecting boater should do on his own.
Most could not park a boat for toffee.
On arrival ropes still coiled up,fenders still stowed (both of them) people dashing all over the boat not doing much really and every one within in range of being hit wondering wether to abandon assisting and nipping off to protect their own boat.
All very amusing ....but really. :)
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I think what you are describing is typical Bank Holiday boater action, could have just as easily been mo-boers.
 
Philiz said:
I think what you are describing is typical Bank Holiday boater action, could have just as easily been mo-boers.
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........but it wasnt,on that weekend in Ramsgate ,it was arriving yachts.All of them flying Red ensigns.
Watched one particular boat spend at least 10 mins going backwards and forwards attempting to moor.He was finally helped to come to a halt roughly parallel with the finger berth with the assistance of about 3 or 4 onlookers hanging on to his ropes.
Perhaps these yachts moor on trots or swinging moorings and have little practice getting into tight spaces ?
 
lisilou said:
Spot on. A couple of friends went out on a days training on a saily boat over the weekend as they really want to take up sailing. Part of their instruction was NEVER to wave at mobos...he was serious apparently. What a knob! So yeh..attitude has a lot to do with it.
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Having spent more of my boating time as a Raggie than a Moboer, I can say with some sadness & direct exerience that IMHO the snobbier element of our nautical brethren hails from the Raggie fraternity, so having some d**khead sailing instructor provide such advice to novices / trainees does not surprise me.

What really gets my goat is the number of HMs who actively promote a form of boating apartheid, I.e. Raggies can only moor to Raggies and Mobos to Mobos. We're all boatie's aren't we !

Now having said all of this, is doesn't take too many fast planing Mobos passing too close to engender the Raggies with the idea we are all a'holes. I will wave at all I pass close enough to for them to notice, including dinghies, jetskiers, and even those damn fools paddling surf boards halfway across the Solent. I will always try to give a wide berth, and when passing between several Raggies will try to give more room to the leeward boat. Those that see and understand this manoeuvre in their favour will generally acknowledge with a polite wave of understanding.

The exception here is when I am stand on vessel in a crossing situation with a Raggie under power, where to throw a manoeuvre, especially to port, could create a potential collision situation, and if one is Stand on vessel, one is obliged to maintain both course and speed, until either the situation has passed, or one is forced to act in avoidance, when my manner of wave may well change !
 
oldgit said:
........but it wasnt,on that weekend in Ramsgate ,it was arriving yachts.All of them flying Red ensigns.
Watched one particular boat spend at least 10 mins going backwards and forwards attempting to moor.He was finally helped to come to a halt roughly parallel with the finger berth with the assistance of about 3 or 4 onlookers hanging on to his ropes.
Perhaps these yachts moor on trots or swinging moorings and have little practice getting into tight spaces ?
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Bah you beat me to it! Many yotties are not so good at close quarters stuff as they never do it. As you say, many are on swinging moorings. I reckon mo-boers turned raggie are, generally speaking, better at the close quarters stuff as they're more used to parking in marinas.
 
Philiz said:
Bah you beat me to it! Many yotties are not so good at close quarters stuff as they never do it. As you say, many are on swinging moorings. I reckon mo-boers turned raggie are, generally speaking, better at the close quarters stuff as they're more used to parking in marinas.
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I do not have a bow thruster & am able to berth onto a raft gap with a boat length + 2ft. The Dutchman ahead said "Skipper you know your boat"
 
superheat6k said:
...What really gets my goat is the number of HMs who actively promote a form of boating apartheid, I.e. Raggies can only moor to Raggies and Mobos to Mobos. We're all boatie's aren't we...
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It actually makes good sense where possible for ease of access.

I have encountered the booted and spurred ladies of an outside motorboat stood on their swimming platform, looking at my sugar scoop stern across 6 foot or so of water trying to work out how to get ashore and then had to assist them over the outwardly leaning safety rails of their boat that are a couple of feet higher than my deck when returning...

I would always raft my sailing boat against another sailing boat as a preference and if I had a motorboat, I would always raft against another motorboat where I could.
 
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