Relations with a boat yard

[CalicoJack]

Some months ago we decided to have our osmosis treated professionally. Apart from the osmosis everything on the boat worked. The boat was lifted and the masts removed, she is ketch rigged. Now some five months on the boat has been treated, the masts reinstated and we are nearly ready to go, BUT.....

The radar now doesn't work. The dome is mounted on the mizzen. The yard have rejoined the radar cable which has a junction box in the aft cabin, but although the display unit powers up there is nothing on the screen. The scanner can be heard to rotate in its dome. The radar probably came out of the Ark, it's a Furuno 1830 and is probably nearly 20/25 years old. The yards view is that they have put it back as it was and it's not their problem. The stress caused by the removal of the cable from the boat and removal of the mast have just been too much for it. There is no apparent damage to the dome, so it doesn't look as though it's been dropped. My view is it worked when we handed the boat over to them, but it doesn't work now, so it's their problem.

What's your view?

 

[Jamesuk]

There is no apparent damage to the dome, so it doesn't look as though it's been dropped. My view is it worked when we handed the boat over to them, but it doesn't work now, so it's their problem.

What's your view?

Good excuse to get a new radar and negotiate a deal with the yard to fit it for free.

 

[xyachtdave]

What's your view?

Don't go out in fog, the dark or poor visibility!

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

At 20/25 years old, I think you're pushing your luck a little in blaming the yard!

 

[Daydream believer]

Unfortunately the yard obviously know a chancer when they see one

 

[Forty_Two]

My 26 year old 1830 still works perfectly. Check the cable join. Could be the coax parts of the multiway cable have not been joined correctly if all is well but no picture. Also check all single colours match very carefully at the join.

 

[Eyore]

Chancing your arm blaming the yard on that I'd say.

 

[Richard10002]

My 26 year old 1830 still works perfectly. Check the cable join. Could be the coax parts of the multiway cable have not been joined correctly if all is well but no picture. Also check all single colours match very carefully at the join.

+1 chances are they have joined the cables wrong. Did they photograph the joints before dismantling? I'd take it apart and put it back together properly. When my mast came down, I did all the preparation, including splitting the cables. That way I knew how it worked and knew it was done correctly.

 

[Sinbad1951]

I bought strip connectors. You wire into both sides of the strip and push the strip together. When you take the mast down simply pull the strip apart, wiring still intact and push the half strip through any wiring holes needed. Easy peasy. No miswiring when reassembling.

 

[l'escargot]

You admit yourself that it is an old set an there is no evidence of any damage caused by the yard. When was the last time you used it, was it immediately before you handed the boat over and you can say hand on heart that it was working at that point? I switched my old set on in the summer and it didn't work, ok it was only a fuse as it turned out, but I hadn't switched it on for months and couldn't say when it had actually stopped working. You can't rule out the possibility that it would have stopped working if you had disconnected it yourself. Sounds like it was living on borrowed time anyway and I would say it was your problem, not the yards.

 

[Capt Popeye]

My 26 year old 1830 still works perfectly. Check the cable join. Could be the coax parts of the multiway cable have not been joined correctly if all is well but no picture. Also check all single colours match very carefully at the join.

Agree with the comments above; salt water and driving wind cause havoc with copper cables and all poss OK until a cable connector is tampered with, then the connection that was on its last legs, is not anymore. Coax can be troublesome if damp or water finds its way into connector or cable

 

[NormanS]

IIRC there are about17 individual wires in the radar cable. Surely worth checking very carefully that they are all correct. It's not just colour to colour, some of the same colour are thicker than others. Check for that too.

 

[superheat6k]

With the yard on this one. Seems they have not been able to see it work beforehand, it is 25 years old, and they haven't knowingly damaged it.

Perhaps a little unfair and bad faith to suggest they are somehow at fault here. If I were the yard I would be pretty annoyed at any accusation I was at fault here.

 

[CalicoJack]

Thanks for all your views. Two points:-
Sadly I left the dismantling of the cable junction to the yard so I'm not sure what I'm looking for, but it's certainly an area that I will be looking at that.

I hadn't thought of it as chancing my arm, but I hadn't thought of it from the yards point of view. Thanks for putting me right.

Nigel

 

[GrahamM376]

Thanks for all your views. Two points:-
Sadly I left the dismantling of the cable junction to the yard so I'm not sure what I'm looking for, but it's certainly an area that I will be looking at that.

I hadn't thought of it as chancing my arm, but I hadn't thought of it from the yards point of view. Thanks for putting me right.

Nigel

Thin coax video cable may be the problem, if the outer shield has pulled over the inner core, it's easy to miss it's coax at a glance.