Registering my boat

Hi go to the mca site and download the registration form, you will need to send the original registration document, your bill of sail, if you ring them a very nice lady will tell you all about it.

hope this is of some help
Paul
 
Hi,
hope you are enjoying your new boat,we need to know the size of your vessel ,as there are 2 registation avenues open 2 you,the ssr(small ships register)or part 1(lloyds)register,i think,regards m m 1.
 
If the boat is already on the Part 1 register then you have to do the transfer. If it is on the Part 3 (SSR) then the previous owner has to notify the registrar of the sale and you re-register in your own name - simple on line procedure £25. Registration is not compulsory and is only really necessary if you intend taling your boat abroad. All information on the MCA site. Additional explanations from the RYA if you are still unsure.
 
Technicaly you don't have to registar your boat at all, if you want to go abroad an SSR registration is required by foreign officials, but you can apply for one of these anytime you like with no documentation required. If your doing coastal passgaes its a good idea to registar your details with the Coastguard, so that they have details of your boat etc.. if you are involved in an emergency.
 
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If your doing coastal passgaes its a good idea to registar your details with the Coastguard, so that they have details of your boat etc

[/ QUOTE ] That's the so called CG66 scheme. The advice applies whether or not you are registered on Part1 or part 3 of the register of shipping.
If you have Vhf radiotelephone the licence for that will also see some particulars put on to an international data base which can be used for S&R purposes

Register of shipping parts I and III

CG66 Scheme

VHF licensing
 
Depends whether you are considering part 1 or SSR registration. I would part 1 register if you intend to do much boating in foreign waters. It proves categorically that you own the vessel and/or notes details of any loan secured on the vessel. The process is very straightforward the required forms can be downloaded from the MCA site. You will need to choose a name and port of registry, provide the builders certificate (if new), or five years worth of bills of sale, fill in the together with the fee of £124 and send them off to the MCA, (who are very helpful). I recently completed this process for myself having had a ridiculous quote from an agency of about £600 to do the work for me. Good luck!
 
Many thanks for this.

She is a 31ft Sunline, currently moored at Tewkesbury. We plan to take her down the river to Bristol when the weather peps up, but we have not been able to use her at all yet as she has a problem with the BSC, with nylon sensors in the base of the fuel filters. Cummins do not yet have a fix, so I am making some metal covers.
 
Sorry, but this is not good advice. It is not easy to get an existing boat on the Part 1 unless you have a complete set of documents from the day it was built. Then you need a measurement survey. This is totally unnecessary. The Part 3 SSR registration does everything you need to identify the boat as a British registered vessel to satisfy officials in other countries. That is why it was introduced and most people use it.

The only reason for going on Part 1 is if you want to raise finance with the boat as security. Lenders may ask for a charge to be registered against the boat. All this does is make it impossible to change ownership and registration without the new owner being aware of the charge. Just having the registration is not in itself proof of ownership. That is demonstrated by a valid Bill of Sale.
 
Well I can only say if in the UK SSR fine, I would not consider this proof for countries such as Spain & Portugal . SSR does not prove title. You do not need bills of sale going back to new only for the last five years, sure if you have a marine mortgage a finance company may insist on part 1 registration. You do need a measurement certificate from an authorised body (e.g. YBDSA). Entirely your choice as to what you do.
 
I do not know where you get your information from about the acceptability of the SSR. Thousands of boats have it and it is internationally accepted. There is no point in going onto Part 1 unless your finance company insists on it. Part 1 does NOT prove title. Title is anyway irrelevant for most purposes when entering foreign waters. The only thing that is important is establishing your Flag State so that you do not have to comply with local registration requirements. The SSR does this - indeed it was introduced specifically for this purpose. In addition in the EU you may be asked to show that VAT has been paid on your boat, although in practice this is almost never asked for - and if your boat is on the SSR, the authorities will recognise that VAT is a matter for HMRC (although strictly speaking this is a simplification).

So, why waste your money on something that is for all practical purposes irrelevant?
 
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Part 1 does NOT prove title

[/ QUOTE ] I had always belived that it did, therefore rather surprised by your statement

Also it seems then that the statement on the MCA's UK Ship Register site namely "Part I enables you to prove title to your boat and register a marine mortgage" is rather misleading.
 
Read the MCA site, first page, accquire knowledge and enjoy. I have no finance on my boat BUT I know how malignant authorities can be in Spain and Portugal. I will 'waste' money in my way, what you wish to do with yours is entirely upto you!. In any case happy boating whoever you are.
 
There is no compulsion to either register nor to re-register when a boat changes hands. The title to ownership is the Bill of Sale. Re-registration is only possible with a valid bill of sale. So registration is only evidence of title after ownership has been established. Would you buy a boat with only registration and no Bill of Sale?
 
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Would you buy a boat with only registration and no Bill of Sale?


[/ QUOTE ] That is not the question being debated.

You say that pt 1 registration is not proof of title. The MCA /UK ship register website seems to say it is.

Who's right? Tranona or the people who run the scheme.
 
Hi Vic

The point I am making is that a boat can change hands without the registry knowing about it. So the registration document is only confirmation of title on the day it was registered. Many boats now fall off the register because the registration is not renewed as well as those where the owners (old and new) do not register the change.

It would be different if the system was the same as in Greece where the Bill of Sale is not valid unless it is certified by the registrar that the details of registration have been changed or, as in my case the boat is removed from the register and title transferred to me.

So, of course it is very good evidence of ownership and any charges registered against the boat - much better than the SSR, but it is not definitive.
 
I would have thought that if anyone has a boat and a current, valid registration document that shows him as the owner then that was proof of ownership, based on what the MCA UK ship register website says. If he has sold the boat then he does not have the boat unless he has stolen it back again. If the registration is not current then one would not accept it as proof perhaps.

However perhaps you are right. I will therefore leave you to point out to the MCA/UK Ship register that what they say about their scheme is wrong. Do let us know their repsonse.
 
Is there any additional information necessary or difficulty in getting a boat previously registered in Holland on to the UK SSR? What about if one wishes to change the boats name?
 
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I would part 1 register if you intend to do much boating in foreign waters.

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The cheapo SSR registration is good enough for foreign waters. I've been inspected a few times (in France, Spain, Italy)and never had or heard of a problem. Unless there is another valid reason why bother with the Part1.
 
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