Refitting winches

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Another quandry, regarding the refurb of my slightly-tired Cutlass 27, for which I again invite opinion....

I've removed to my workshop the existing Barlow 19 non-selftailing sheet winches from their cockpit side mountings, and stripped them down for cleaning. The externals are, after 30 years, not pristine. The internals, however, are..... They've had a gentle life.

I like the functionality of 'self-tailing' and, while I've bought new 'Wincher' units to fit the Barlows - which I know work well - I have in my loft 2 pairs of pristine, unused and still boxed Lewmar AST 43s. So I am encouraged to retrofit a couple of these big 43s.

Except, they seem rather OTT for a 27', 3-ton wee boat. See pic...


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A 'trial fit' shows they'd overlap the coaming by close to an inch, so tailored s/s mountings would be needed. On a boat where most of the sheet and halyard loads can be hand-hauled, they still seem rather 'overkill' and perhaps faintly ridiculous. Or am I wholly wrong...?

What does the team think? :confused:
 
Yes, you are wholly wrong, overkill by far, but you know this. Best to keep these winches as an asset for a future project or to sell on to fund something for this one.
 
oldbilbo said:
Another quandry, regarding the refurb of my slightly-tired Cutlass 27, for which I again invite opinion....

I've removed to my workshop the existing Barlow 19 non-selftailing sheet winches from their cockpit side mountings, and stripped them down for cleaning. The externals are, after 30 years, not pristine. The internals, however, are..... They've had a gentle life.

I like the functionality of 'self-tailing' and, while I've bought new 'Wincher' units to fit the Barlows - which I know work well - I have in my loft 2 pairs of pristine, unused and still boxed Lewmar AST 43s. So I am encouraged to retrofit a couple of these big 43s.

Except, they seem rather OTT for a 27', 3-ton wee boat. See pic...


IMG_3446.jpg



A 'trial fit' shows they'd overlap the coaming by close to an inch, so tailored s/s mountings would be needed. On a boat where most of the sheet and halyard loads can be hand-hauled, they still seem rather 'overkill' and perhaps faintly ridiculous. Or am I wholly wrong...?

What does the team think? :confused:
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Sell the 43s & buy 30STs
 
sell them on ebay and buy smaller ones.

these 43s on 27ft boat have too much power, potential to break something if used wrongly.
 
I agree, I have 30STs on a 27 footer and although when hard pressed I would happily go up a size, but they are just the right size to remind me it's time to reef that ludicously large foresail!

Rob.
 
I've got standard Lewmar 40's on my 28 footer because I got them second hand and cheap. If I had a set of 43ST's in the loft I'd fit them like a shot. As long as I could fit the bolt pattern onto the coamings I wouldn't worry about the slight overhang. If you could do a deal to swap them for some new 30STs that may be a better option but otherwise use them.
 
oldbilbo said:
Hmmm. A pair of Lewmar EVO 2-speed ast30s would set me back around £1000....
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I have a pair of Antal 32s that have been my coachroof winches for 7 years, and just serviced.

I am in the market for a pair of AST43s, and would love to dicker a mutually convenient solution. Trouble is, I have just finished this seasons upgrades and refubishments, so would not want to do this job until the end of the season.
 
FullCircle said:
I have a pair of Antal 32s that have been my coachroof winches for 7 years, and just serviced.

I am in the market for a pair of AST43s, and would love to dicker a mutually convenient solution. Trouble is, I have just finished this seasons upgrades and refubishments, so would not want to do this job until the end of the season.
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Isn't it always the way...? Do bear in mind I have TWO pairs of these things - once intended for a long-stalled 'big project' - and a pair of new Lewmar 8s, as well. There are boaty things in my bulked-out loft I haven't seen for years.... or remembered! :rolleyes:
 
oldbilbo said:
Isn't it always the way...? Do bear in mind I have TWO pairs of these things - once intended for a long-stalled 'big project' - and a pair of new Lewmar 8s, as well. There are boaty things in my bulked-out loft I haven't seen for years.... or remembered! :rolleyes:
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I shall bookmark for:
a)the end of the season
b) when I have money.

:o
 
My two winches worth :
Now that FC has relocated one pair..
The others , well. I swapped out 30s for 40s on my last boat and went racing ( and shorthanded cruising) . Moving a stantion in the process to plonk em where I wanted them( having raced a sister ship ).

All agreed, 40 was the correct size . Boat 26ft 3t tho I added two feet n stuff
 
On my wee 28' trapper 500 I replaced the non tailing Lewmar 30's with some 40 selfers, my lovely wee crew still needs a bit of extra help to crank in the No.1 & No.2 in a breeze. She smiles when I suggest we just have the 'little jib' for a leisurley sail. 43's are a bit ott but 30's are marginal if your crew are not all beefy.
 
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