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BarryH

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I was down that way earlier in the year! Reassuring to know that even if your wrongly convicted the powers won't actually tell you.

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It most certainly is! And don't bother to phone the number, you'll only get a recorded message saying you'll need to write which I have done but with no response as yet. Bastards!

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I can see the brown stuff hitting the airconditioning over this. Just more fuel for the argument about revenue raising camera's. Theres one been put in round our way on a road that has had no accidents in the last 10 years. But it is a long straight road with a limit of 30mph where people rugularly travel at 45mph.

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Yup .. following on my 6 points in 6weeks I've been boring people rigid with the topic. Rigger on the boat today, an elderly gentleman, got 6 points in 1 day. Speed limit was changed from 40 to 30 and a camera put up. My elderly mother 74 got 3 points (46mph) on a long straight 40 mph zone. Crazee!

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Join the club, I got a 37 mph in a brand new 30 limit (very obscured new 30 signs) on a dual carriageway stretch that has been 40 for ever. Yet more revenue raising, and they wonder why people have lost their respect for the law. I dont want law - I want justice.

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If things carry on, I can see a popular revolt, along the lines of the poll tax. If there are enough people to snowball a revolt and refuse to fill in forms and send off their fines, and turning up at court pleading not guilty, the whole system would grind to a halt.

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Come on guys be fair.

Up here in Cambridge we had local traffic cop appear on TV to explain how important it was that all emergency vehicles caught 'on camera' be traced and checked that they were on an emergency call out - police vehicles excepted of course - trips to McDonalds just would not be the same.
So don't knock it - after all, those same plods could have been wasting their time catching yobs,criminals or if pushed really hard the odd illegal immigrant, the Fens, regrettably only the dry parts are full of them - Ask about 10 caught on farm and released to be 'good boys' now only one can be found !

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All of this is done for revenue - and no other reason. Why do I say this?? Because if the cops were seriously intent on road safety, they would deploy gatzo cameras on 30mph housing areas, places where families live, in order to stop the feckin' hooligans ripping along at 50mph after the pubs close.

Take the A45 into Coventry. Large dual carriageway - not a house in sight. 60mph limit where 70 would be right - and loads of cameras. Nothing to do with safety. I am rapidly losing faith in the police and they are rapidly losing my support and the support of millions of others like me, who are law abiding citizens.

If anyone on the force reads this - GET OUT AND DO SOME REAL POLICING!! You know the stuff - good ol' fashioned bobbies on bicycles and bobbies in 2's on the beat. Where I live, we haven't seen a copper walking about for over a year. All too busy driving around in high powered Volvo T5's bristling with every imaginable device to nick motorists, but if you want a call out - forget it.

"Deriliction of duty" and "back to basics" spring quickly to mind. Shameful!!!!!

Have I any evidence to support this diatribe?? Yeah, tonnes of it - I wouldn't even have time to reply with it all.

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Why are you having a go at the cops? What have they got to do with it?
The cameras are sited by local councils and usually run by outfits independent of the police.

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Because I have had too many discussions with the Cheshire Police, regarding road safety where we live, to remember. I have also attended local council meetings in order to try and bring some sanity into the driving on our little road. I have lobbied, written, begged, pleaded, demanded, phoned, been fobbed off, been lied to and ignored. And no, it wasn't the camera outfits that couldn't or wouldn't help, it was the police - and the local council.

We also boundary with the notorious North Wales Police, who are adept at catching motorists using their own vans and cameras, not those of some private firms. Their record of catching motorists is exemplary. On the matter of catching burglers...700 reported incidents in one year - clear up rate just 2. Yep, thats 2.

I did say that I had evidence...

And I do lay the blame directly at the police station door - maybe not with the copper on foot (cos there aint none) perhaps more with the management.

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Not true. Under the 'netting off' scheme, Plod is allowed to keep a proportion of revenue 'earned' by speed cameras which probably accounts for the fact that these bloody things are breeding like rabbits and you see wooden tops tooling around in the latest German tackle rather than Morris Marinas
All power to Captain Gatso, I say

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To your, not true, I will also say not true.

Under the old rules, ALL of the fines taken went straight to the taxman. The police got nothing, though had to bear the costs of administering the system.

Under the new rules, the police can take a proportion of the fines, but this is tightly ring fenced (hypothecated) so that it can only be spent on administering the cameras. It cannot be used to purchase patrol cars or any other police expense.



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Talking of tickets and revenue. A chap got a ticket for having his ticket from the machine upside down on the dash board. 30 quid for not displaying it!

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Talking of tickets and revenue. A chap got a ticket for having his ticket from the machine upside down on the dash board. 30 quid for not displaying it!

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Is that upside down as in date and time visible but upside down, or upside down as in date and time facing the dashboard and invisible?

If the latter, then little sympathy, I know people who use old tickets like this to avoid paying. If the former then the ticket warden needs knee capping

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Upside down as in date and time visible. I have sympathy with the chap as one who travels in and out of the Crapital most days getting stung an extra fiver for the priveledge on top of the average of 5 quid an hour on the meters

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Thats what I said, I thought. The remark about German cars was (slightly) tongue in cheek but the fact that the police receive a proportion of the revenue collected (unlike any other offence BTW) is obviously an incentive to put up more cameras. Cynical as I am, I dont doubt that some of the revenue received to cover so-called expenses finds its way into other budgets
Irrespective of the rights or wrongs of speed cameras (and I believe they are merited in many situations), the Police must recognise that their apparent obsession with this form of enforcement alienates the majority of law abiding citizens particularly as other types of crime seem to be ignored.

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