Rant Alert

If you fancy going second (or third, or fourth etc) hand there’s a series of articles on GRP yachts in Classic Boat’s June issue. No angles there...

wully1 said:
I’ve just looked at some adverts for new 40 odd foot cruising boats...not going to name names.

Hideous, angular, awkward and unsightly wedges... with some Ikea furniture thrown in. Literally looks like it’s been thrown in.

Has building curves into a boat got too expensive or what?

Never seen a square edged dolphin or bird...
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I'd like to put in a word for modern designs. The designs that most of us admire visually have significant shortcomings such as those mentioned, as well as poor accomodation and limited light weather performance. We may laugh at some new boats with their funny looks and fancy aft ballrooms but I for one think that the better ones look purposeful, and would quite like to have some of their downwind performance myself. My own HR 34 is sort of in the middle of nowhere in terms of style but when I get too old for it I think I'll get myself a little Pogo to play with.
 
pvb said:
The surprise was for John 32i.
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Roger that. I see that most of the regular yachting staging posts around various parts of the globe are well appointed with production boats. Old BS's trusty rusty and the ageing termite food boats are becoming ever rarer.

My Moody from 1977 keeps rolling on though!
 
pvb said:
The surprise was for John 32i.
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Roger that. I see that most of the regular yachting staging posts around various parts of the globe are well appointed with production boats. Old BS's trusty rusty and the ageing termite food boats are becoming ever rarer.

My Moody from 1977 keeps rolling on though!
 
Hayling said:
....... And when I come to sell, I suspect even more buyers will want modern boats and old style boats will be harder to sell to the upcoming generation of sailors. .......
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That will be after the bottom drops out the market for narrow fin keel boats that can not prove the integrity of their keels.

It's a joke, don't get defensive with me please.

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I like the looks of the Hanse 505 and would get one if I could afford it.

I love the idea of a previous poster that roomy modern boats could become valueless because of their fin keels. If you want a valueless boat then a sub 35 foot old British made boat is there already with a few exceptions. But all boats are now losing value like cars but with the added disadvantage that you can't scrap them.
 
Hayling said:
Well I bought a 'new' style boat with'IKEA' style interior and it was the deciding factor for me over
'old school' boats with dark, 'Gentlemens club' interiors, of course it also had to look good, sail well and
be roomy enough for my needs, but there are enormous advances in modern design and layout and I did not want to buy into old technology but the future. And when I come to sell, I suspect even more buyers will want modern boats and old style boats will be harder to sell to the upcoming generation of sailors. Ikea Is opening new stores and old brown furniture is out of fashion, things do move on, embrace change, some of it is for the better!
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I believe you’ll find recent boats will not age at all well as they are so cheaply built so will be hard to shift in a few years.Time will tell...
 
wully1 said:
I’ve just looked at some adverts for new 40 odd foot cruising boats...not going to name names.
Hideous, angular, awkward and unsightly wedges... with some Ikea furniture thrown in. Literally looks like it’s been thrown in. Has building curves into a boat got too expensive or what?
Never seen a square edged dolphin or bird...
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wully1 said:
I believe you’ll find recent boats will not age at all well as they are so cheaply built so will be hard to shift in a few years.Time will tell...
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Yawn. Not another one. Presumably you drive a 40 year old car.
 
Is that so bad? I own 4 cars. Combined age 76 years. Combined mileage 750,000. They’re all crap. But they work! Actually they punch some decent displacement... 4.4 V8, 3.9 V8, 2.7 V6, 2.5 straight 5.

Scala said:
Yawn. Not another one. Presumably you drive a 40 year old car.
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wully1 said:
I believe you’ll find recent boats will not age at all well as they are so cheaply built so will be hard to shift in a few years.Time will tell...
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In real terms, they're much better built than production boats of yesteryear! Fantastic precision, no leaks, no creaks, virtually automotive standards of fit & finish.
 
wully1 said:
I’ve just looked at some adverts for new 40 odd foot cruising boats...not going to name names.

Hideous, angular, awkward and unsightly wedges... with some Ikea furniture thrown in. Literally looks like it’s been thrown in.

Has building curves into a boat got too expensive or what?

Never seen a square edged dolphin or bird...
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Race boats are showing the way:

Wide flat stern - faster off the wind...

Upwind : sail on the edge for little drag.

Wide aft : more room below.
 
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Hayling said:
Well I bought a 'new' style boat with'IKEA' style interior and it was the deciding factor for me over
'old school' boats with dark, 'Gentlemens club' interiors . . . . And when I come to sell, I suspect even more buyers will want modern boats and old style boats will be harder to sell to the upcoming generation of sailors.
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Or will it be like the Victorian/Edwardian house features that one generation spent the 60s and 70s removing, and everyone has been replacing ever since?

Most of my boats have been two nostalgia waves ahead! :ambivalence:
 
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