Quick ICC?

Hi Duncan
I completely agree with you, I also have a piece of paper that delivered exactly what I expected and required.
Having read the advice on the forum a number of years ago I knew exactly what the ICC was with no confusion
 
sure if you use your own boat it will deliver what it says, but believeing you could charter or borrow someone elses non british flagged boat and be qualified in that country to do so could be a whole different thing.

i will be interested to hear if anyone has any experience of using the ICC abroad and what happened, also if anyone has had an accident abroad in a non british vessel and if the ICC was accepted during an investigation
 
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maybe you have a boat that could make france with agood tide and some wind, but i will never have one that big for a while so will not be going abroad

[/ QUOTE ] nope I got one because I was advised that the marina in spain (Ampuriabrava) wouldn't permit boats to be lauched in August unless you (non spainards)could present one and I was towing mine down for the summer holidays. This is btw not strickly a legality either but they used it as a control mechanisim of thier own and you aren't going to argue sucessfully...........!

I do now have a boat that I run over to France in (all of 25ft !) but of course I don't need an ICC for that unless I am leaving tidal waters as you know..............
 
Only had limited experience but i've chartered in the south of France and all they required was my ICC. However there were no bareboat charters, over 12m they were all "avec marin" ( with skipper). The boats i chartered were between 6-8m.
 
Who/what lead you to belive ' <span style="color:red"> you could charter or borrow someone elses non british flagged boat and be qualified in that country. </span>
 
I foolishly thought it was like an international boat driving licence which showed you had reached a certain standard in your own country that would be acceptable in another members country.

i was totally wrong as you have found out, it officialy means nothing at all if not in a UK registered boat (if UK ICC holder)

so for me nolt taking a Uk registered boat abroad it is as good as a chocolate tea pot
 
I obtained mine because in Spain they were having a bit of a clampdown on jetskis ect tearing up & down creating problems. In fact the spanish impounded quite a few brit reg craft & would not return them untill a ICC was produced. In the Balearics they went round many marinas checking insurance, reg & ICC. This was 2- 3 years ago just after the terrorists train bomb. They also came round my marina about a year ago checking all docs of anyone who was on board spanish & brits alike but I was not there at the time & am only going on a friends info
As for producing it, my marina asked for a copy along with insurance & reg.
When booking into other marinas I always produce it but never been asked for it.
After I was struck by three other boats at anchor in a storm last year. When I made my report for insurance reasons Guardia just glanced at it & said good job you have this now you have no problem with us & that was it.

My personal views are that the spanish (Guardia) can do as they like so its best to have one. If you dont act like a prat & play the game you dont get any hassle but better to be safe than sorry.

I rented a 26' (bareboat)sports fisher for 3 days in Antigua & all they wanted to see was my ICC plus a short demo of handling skills. I dont know for sure but I think many other places are the same
I got exactly what I expected from the ICC no more & no less.
 
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I rented a 26' (bareboat)sports fisher for 3 days in Antigua & all they wanted to see was my ICC plus a short demo of handling skills. I dont know for sure but I think many other places are the same


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clearwaater fl was the same a couple of months ago for a 22' sf
 
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OK, I'm now thoroughly confused. SWMBO and I got our ICCs by direct assessment a couple of weeks back, CEVNI endorsements included, as we want to take our British flagged and SSR tagged boat to Belgium this summer. Have we now go to go and shell out £££££ for DazedKippers instead?
 
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... i will be interested to hear if anyone has any experience of using the ICC abroad and what happened, also if anyone has had an accident abroad in a non british vessel and if the ICC was accepted during an investigation


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I chartered a 46ft Flybridge with ICC. The boat was British flagged and my ICC was obtained in Ireland.

Nothing else to report other than we had a great time.
 
Re: snap

not sure what's confused you ?

on the info you have given the only possible issue I can see would be if you had done the direct assesments on a small rib or mini cruiser and your boat is 20m.......
 
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not sure what's confused you ?

on the info you have given the only possible issue I can see would be if you had done the direct assesments on a small rib or mini cruiser and your boat is 20m.......

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I've now read the thread again, with second cup of coffee and have become unconfused:-)
 
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if they want me to have a US passaport, russian driving licence and be able to swim 2 miles that their business and nothing to do witht he RYA.


[/ QUOTE ] Aha! They specified that for you as well, did they? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Is it possible to do the ICC (own boat) in a day?
Cheers
Jimmy

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If you don't need training you can do the assessment in a couple of hours. I did.

Don't forget to do the CEVNI at the same time - for inland waterways.
 
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"Have we now go to go and shell out £££££ for DazedKippers instead?"

D/S(amongst other quals) can allow you to get ICC. So, you can have D/S as well as have an ICC, but you do not NEED D/S in addition. ICC can stand alone.
 
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My ICC says I have passed the tests necassary to demonstrate my competence to operate pleasure craft up to 80GT and 24 metres in length.

The Maltese recognise it as an equivilent to their Boatmans certificate, and it is recognised throughout the world as a certificate of competance (what is says on the tin!

So what's the problem?
 
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don't think izzy had the problem - whatever it might be

although in practice the problem was the number of smart alecs who decided to arbtrage their local boating regulations by finding the country where they could most easily aquire an ICC and circumvent local rules and requirements etc which of course upset a lot of people on the one hand - but found willing parties on the other

it's all settling down a bit now .........
 
I've used an ICC to charter yachts up to 44ft long in Greece, Italy and Spain. No probs. at all - well not with the chartering part of the proceedings /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Was asked to provide qualifications in all three countries but suspect that RYA Coastal Skipper would have been just as acceptable, if not more so.
 
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