PWC/Jetski users persecuted?

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Is it impossible to fit jetskis with some sort of silencer?

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They are fitted with silencers, of sorts. Probably by the same manufacturer as those fitted on all these scooters flying about everywhere.

I remember driving a Triumph Stag up onto ramps with no exhaust other than the downpipes some years ago. Noise was so loud a little kid 2 doors down ran inside crying. Luverly sound /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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***** Ooh you are awful !! But I like you ....
 
Put a post on the \'other thread\' - its been nicked !!

Cor - just thought we might be in for a bit of sport and its deleted !!!

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But... they are being used by lifeguards too....

and so they do have their uses. They tow an inflatable mattress with hand holds all around to aid swimmers in difficulty.

John
 
Re: But... they are being used by lifeguards too....

Agreed.

Just confirms that the problem isn't the jet skis; it's the people wot drives them!

FWIW, Out of interest I had a look at the Yamaha website earlier. I had no idea that some of these things have up to 200HP to play with. Beats my 8HP!
 
They have good uses too ...

It cannot be denied that they can be a god-send in some circumstances ........ but then normally they will be driven by people employed in that field and actually doing something worthwhile .... not some amateur prat thinking he's a Saviour.

If you follow Mr RYA PWC Instructor thread onto the PWC forum ... you will find posts about .... speed, superchargers etc.

And to cap it all ---- we could have remopved from the Solent more than 70 of them on July 23 of Lee on Solent .... OK - it was a Charity Do ... and good for them .... I applaud it. But the way the intro was on the forum etc. was that ONLY PWC do charity do's for RNLI etc.
So therefore I have a question .... what %age of PWC drivers are members of RNLI on annual steady basis ... as I would guess a majority of yotties are ...

The whole matter of PWC has .... there I go using the term I really object to !! The whole matter of Jet Skis ... has been turned over by hooligan louts who think that high speed turns and slamming walls of water over others is great fun ... this is one occasion that I wish gasoline WAS bad !!

It has been said that people walk into BMW dealers and exchange their brains for the keys ... driving out completely different and thinkig they are god gift to speed .... I think the same can be leveled to average JS buyer / driver - in fact I would say even more so .....

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Aside from the tiny minority who deliberately carve up other boats, the main gripe against these things is that, like trail bikes, the manufacturers make them so b****** noisy. Having recently had a ride on a boat that turned out 1800 hp with virtually no exhaust noise, I think there's no excuse for making machines that can be heard for miles.

I think the vast majority of people who go anywhere near the water would support legislation that forced manufacturers to silence them effectively.
 
Re: They have good uses too ...

Of course it's not the jet skis that are a problem.
Until some monkey climbs on them and fires up they are very benign.
It's after that the trouble starts.
 
Bit like Guns and bullets really ....

JS is no trouble till gasoline is put in, and joe blogs pulls the throttle ......

If you cannot educate the monkey - scrap the JS !!

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Re: They have good uses too ...

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And to cap it all ---- we could have remopved from the Solent more than 70 of them on July 23 of Lee on Solent .... OK - it was a Charity Do ... and good for them .... I applaud it. But the way the intro was on the forum etc. was that ONLY PWC do charity do's for RNLI etc.
So therefore I have a question .... what %age of PWC drivers are members of RNLI on annual steady basis ... as I would guess a majority of yotties are ...


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Yes, he was boasting about their charity do as if it was something special; which always makes me dubious about somebody's real motives.

The truth of the matter is that they have raised £6,000 which is useful, but in the scheme of things, is not very much. Frankly, I am sure that others boaters put much more into the RNLI coffers each year, without making a song and dance about it.

That seems to be the pattern with JS's....they have to make a lot of noise with everything they do!
 
Do PWC/Jetski users visit this forum?

Well, opinions seem to range from extreme solutions that are presently illegal, to the view that it's minority bringing the whole group into disrepute.

I think they're here to stay, but find it difficult to see how their image will improve without the active involvement of jetski users themselves. Maybe they don't look at this forum, but I regret that as yet they have not really put any case forward, other than the dubious claims in the other forum.
 
Re: Do PWC/Jetski users visit this forum?

My own image of PWCs was subtly altered last month by meeting three of them coming down the Sound of Mull in F5. I don't know how far they had come (how far can one go on a tankful?) and they had the wind with them (guess who was beating?) and perhaps this reflects my limited knowledge of their capabilities but I had previously only seen them buzzing round the bay annoying the cruising folk.

I had never considered them as passage-makers and certainly not in rough weather but they seemed to be enjoying themselves.

I'd miss the cups of tea.

So how far can a PWC go on a tankful of fuel?
 
Re: Do PWC/Jetski users visit this forum?

I think the don't denigrate by the actions of a few image should be propagated. I know at least one guy who spends most of his weekends as safety boater, with all the licences, looking after all sorts of events, dinghies and upwards. Quiet shy retiring sort, who doesn't volunteer an opinion very often. He can't afford a big boat, but takes his pwc nearly as far afield as I take mine.
 
We all know that majority are responsible people

The trouble is the %age who are not is significant enough to have created limitation rules, controls in harbour beach areas and general friction with the remaining water-borne community. If it was truly 'the few' - then it would not be so bad ... but I would estimate that a good 30% or more that I have observed have been acting in a selfish and unreasonable manner to others in / on the water. When a lone Jet Skier is enjoying his machine - it's often ok and reasonable - it seems to be when they get together in groups of 3, 4 or more that a pack instinct seems to generate .... the number of groups that have sped through moorings, blasted around beach / slipway areas seemingly with little regard to others .....

I try not to exagerate ... but I know it must happen as I have very few good encounters or experiences of them ... so it's difficult to feel generous to them.

On the other forum - there was the suggestion of ID on the JS and also ID by colour ........... well at the average speed of them - who's gonna get a chance to read any ID and the colours ? Well they are nearly all gaudy and like rainbows .... with it being difficult to be precise enough to single out the culprit - I know from my Cowes approcahes incident ....

I have no complaint about them playing the fool in an area that is set aside for them - they can endanger themselves and anyone fool enough to enter THEIR area ... but I do not want my love of being on the water spoilt by a handful (that's fast changing to a lot !!) of irresponsible idiots on Jet Ski's or any other craft that does not show respect for others ...... that includes ALL craft .... big and small.

I think we will follow the example of other countries etc. that have closed in on them and set in place severe restrictions ... some that make our Harbour Rules look very light ..... I think that fines and discouragements should be severe enough to really hurt the pocket or even confiscation of the machine etc.

I wonder what would be the comment from their side if serious videoing of their activities was made and then promulgated as evidence of their 'few' idiots ?? Interesting ....
 
Re: Persecuted ?? No they should be restricted to special areas ...

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Final example : Langstone Hbr Mstr has had a whale of a time in the past trying to catch up with a group that repeatedly full throttled from Ferry Inn through hbr to the Eastern Road bridge past Tudor Club .... and back .... by the time he or anyone else was after them - they had scarpered .... Later returning to do it again ... One time I was lowering my mast on the mooring ... not a time to have a stupid JS cut across the arse of your boat causing it to roll hard .... the laughing could be plainly heard ....
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The Langstone harbour master also allows them to launch, and takes their money every weekend!

He may have many reasons for doing this, maybe his staff allow them to launch time and again in fear of abuse - the idiots who cause the good 'JetSkiers' such a bad name are nasty people, I wouldn't want to stand in their way.

But the fact remains, they are allowed to launch and staff are present at the top of that slipway taking their names, details and money before they launch!

I'm not angry at Langstone's harbour master, but at the situation where we all find ourselves, idiots on the water, regardless of what craft they use are seemingly allowed to break any number of laws and the police/authorities are helpless to stop it.

It is only when someone gets killed or nearly killed something is done.
 
Re: We all know that majority are responsible people

Jet ski's are used as rescue craft in many areas, and most are happy to be rescued by them. Lets drop this tar with all image that this forum propagates
 
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