alant
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You don't have to, just pee over them, that works quite well (shan't tell you how I know).
Propane/Butane - cold weather
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You don't have to, just pee over them, that works quite well (shan't tell you how I know).
Leighb
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You don't have to, just pee over them, that works quite well (shan't tell you how I know).
It would have to be a hell of a pee to make much difference to the temperature of a big butane bottle I would have thought.
bikerbill
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As mentioned before, why not just stay with Propane as it will work in any climate. I got fed up switching from Butane to Propane in caravans and a mobile home I once had, especially when I forgot to buy Propane. I have heard that lagging the bottle with polystyrene helps, but I have never tried this myself. Anyway, I have one of those suitcase type stoves in my boat which is almost useless when the temperature drops, so I stick the gas canister(s) in my jacket to warm them up a bit before I use them. I use a Coleman Dual Fuel stove when the temperature drops.
VicMallows
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Availability - particularly in certain sizes. Propane in the 3.9kg size (same bottle as the common 4.5kg butane) is very rarely available in marinas. 6kg propane is easier to find, but 7kg butane is still much more prevalent. Once you get up to the 13kg size propane is much easier to find!
Above relates to southern England .... I guess in Scotland propane is essential all year round
VicS
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It could make matters worse in marginal conditions. The liquid requires heat to vaporise. It gets this heat from its surroundings. If you insulate the bottle it cannot get this heat from the surroundings with the result that its own temperature will fall as heat is used to vaporise the gas. Eventually the temperature will fall to the point where vaporisation ceases.
VicS
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Above relates to southern England .... I guess in Scotland propane is essential all year round
Anywhere north of the M4 !
alant
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I can demonstrate if you like.
However, not sure I'd like a bloke looking over my shoulder when I've just got out of bed.
VicS
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I can demonstrate if you like.
However, not sure I'd like a bloke looking over my shoulder when I've just got out of bed.
You will have to film it then
bikerbill
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Never gave that much thought til now, Maybe the bloke was getting confused with a hot water / boiler tank with the polystyrene keeping the heat in. And as you say, the polystyrene would keep the cold in
bikerbill
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Availability - particularly in certain sizes. Propane in the 3.9kg size (same bottle as the common 4.5kg butane) is very rarely available in marinas. 6kg propane is easier to find, but 7kg butane is still much more prevalent. Once you get up to the 13kg size propane is much easier to find!
Above relates to southern England .... I guess in Scotland propane is essential all year round
Not that bad really, if it gets below -20 we tend to put on a sweater or close a window 
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC
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I could not use my gas cooker early mornings in March this year because it was cold enough to make the butane gas unable to flow. The outside temperature was approximately 5 degrees; I will consider propane for next year.
VicMallows
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In upstate NY we left the frozen Christmas turkey in the garage 'to thaw'. Completely forgot that the outside temperature was 0degF (-18C). We eventually had the turkey for New Year instead.
ukmctc
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just change the regulator and put propane on.
sunquest
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Slight thread drift, my 4 ring gas hob left black soot marks on pans and griddle. Spoke to Socal who recommended changing to Propane - problem solved.
Sybarite
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From old family business days more than 50 years ago, cylinders held either 32lbs of butane or 28lbs of propane.
VicMallows
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Slight thread drift, my 4 ring gas hob left black soot marks on pans and griddle. Spoke to Socal who recommended changing to Propane - problem solved.
Do you have one of the new 30mb 'universal' regulators? ... or did you (as I suspect) change to a 37mb propane regulator?. The symptoms you describe sound like a classic case of under aeration due to too low pressure for the size of jet fitted. (In other words the cooker was designed for 37mb).
VicS
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Or simply because on a volume for volume basis butane requires about 30% more air for combustion than propane.
saltylegs
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Appliances in the past badge'd Propane and Butane tended to come from the factory "adjusted" for propane and when used with butane could have a softer flame and yellow tip.
But if the appliance was set for butane and you used propane this could result in a very sharp flame that was not to stable, was hard to turn down without it going out and would be a bit noisy.
So the lesser of 2 evils was to make everything perform well on propane.
Most newer appliances are not as sensitive and I don't know of any that have any adjustment to the airation.
Other than availability I can't see why anyone in this climate would use butane and propane usually works out cheaper, don't tell my boss I said that as I work for Calor.
But if the appliance was set for butane and you used propane this could result in a very sharp flame that was not to stable, was hard to turn down without it going out and would be a bit noisy.
So the lesser of 2 evils was to make everything perform well on propane.
Most newer appliances are not as sensitive and I don't know of any that have any adjustment to the airation.
Other than availability I can't see why anyone in this climate would use butane and propane usually works out cheaper, don't tell my boss I said that as I work for Calor.
hartcjhart
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if in port go for 1 of these
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?368498-Induction-cooking-on-the-aft-deck
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?368498-Induction-cooking-on-the-aft-deck
jakeroyd
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You bought it then Russell.
