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Vas, Wayne and now smitch6 have inspired me to do a major project of my own. My 16kg Delta anchor jumped off its bow roller and landed on the toe rail taking a chunk of gelcoat with it.
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So I decided to make a restraint for it and attach it to the two holes already in the bow roller (for the pin).
First problem, finding good stainless steel in nature is very difficult. Top tip carry a magnet with you. Eventually I found a 3mm backing plate at a boat jumble, only slightly warped
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I then cut it into three strips
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Top tip, use masking tape for a straight edge, not the melting plastic tape I used then had to scrub off.
Top tip, drilling stainless steel is a real pain in the ....., so instead weld on the nut or bolt
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Then weld up and install
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Top tip, disguise gel coat damage with white duct tape:)
Please note, its not poor welding just poor eyesight:)
People have commentated that it is very high, true but to make it lower i would have had to do a lot of measurements and calculations
 
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No, the cost of a passerelle is too much, but I do like the electric ones, much more reasonable. The passerelle is a factory option, and the installation in your photo is really nice. Tomorrow I'm going to the La Rochelle boat show (Grand Pavois) its supposed to be the best boat show in France and a passerelle is definitely on my list.
Meanwhile I might continue with the DIY approach, by the time I get to the back of the boat I will be so good I might build a hydraulic swim platform out of an old Citroen DS.
 
Bouba said:
No, the cost of a passerelle is too much, but I do like the electric ones, much more reasonable. The passerelle is a factory option, and the installation in your photo is really nice. Tomorrow I'm going to the La Rochelle boat show (Grand Pavois) its supposed to be the best boat show in France and a passerelle is definitely on my list.
Meanwhile I might continue with the DIY approach, by the time I get to the back of the boat I will be so good I might build a hydraulic swim platform out of an old Citroen DS.
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Have a google for the Opacmare Transformer. If you're going to diy anything, that's what you should be aiming at - will deal with your bathing platform and passerelle needs all in one go.

PS what's the latest on generators, gyros et al?
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
Have a google for the Opacmare Transformer. If you're going to diy anything, that's what you should be aiming at - will deal with your bathing platform and passerelle needs all in one go.

PS what's the latest on generators, gyros et al?
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I can't find a good used geny, I tried to do a deal with the Cummins/Onan man at the Cannes show but they weren't discounting anything, I'm going to try again tomorrow. The geny is a definite, I'm going to buy one and my wife agrees. All the rest is fantasy, a bit like the gyro prices. I was impressed with the Seakeeper at Cannes but the cost, as a percentage, on a small boat is ridiculous, on a big boat it's a bargain. It's a case of waiting for technology to catch up to my wish list.
I saw the Opacmare at Cannes, they are huge! I would need to extend my trim tabs by two feet to keep the bow down. Also my swim platform is bolted on not molded. Another technology that needs to shrink down.
 
Bouba said:
I can't find a good used geny, I tried to do a deal with the Cummins/Onan man at the Cannes show but they weren't discounting anything, I'm going to try again tomorrow. The geny is a definite, I'm going to buy one and my wife agrees. All the rest is fantasy, a bit like the gyro prices. I was impressed with the Seakeeper at Cannes but the cost, as a percentage, on a small boat is ridiculous, on a big boat it's a bargain. It's a case of waiting for technology to catch up to my wish list.
I saw the Opacmare at Cannes, they are huge! I would need to extend my trim tabs by two feet to keep the bow down. Also my swim platform is bolted on not molded. Another technology that needs to shrink down.
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If you've got a bolt-on swim platform, you could always just unbolt it and refit with a H+B Technics mechanism.

Good used generators are like hens teeth; I got lucky and got mine here from someone who was upgrading in order to fit bigger aircon.
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
If you've got a bolt-on swim platform, you could always just unbolt it and refit with a H+B Technics mechanism.

Good used generators are like hens teeth; I got lucky and got mine here from someone who was upgrading in order to fit bigger aircon.
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I've seen these on American sites, they seem to do them on much smaller boats there than what you generally see in Europe but I didn't know about H+B. I wonder what they cost.......
 
Bouba said:
I've seen these on American sites, they seem to do them on much smaller boats there than what you generally see in Europe but I didn't know about H+B. I wonder what they cost.......
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If they aren't at La Rochelle then they definitely exhibit at METS in Amsterdam, which is a fun day out if you're nerdy about bits of boats (there aren't any actual whole boats there). That's also a good place to research your passerelle and stabs.
 
Bouba said:
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People have commentated that it is very high, true but to make it lower i would have had to do a lot of measurements and calculations
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Bouba that's a lovely mock for the real bracket you're going to built soon :p

First, Wurth make a M A G I C oil/cutting liquid call it what you like that you use on your cobalt drills and cut through ss like butter (well almost!. So get 2-3 cobalt drills start with a 3mm and then go up, will have a 8mm hole you probably need in no time. I drilled half a dozen 6mm holes on 3 and 5mm plate on my hard top without sweating, so it's doable.

Second, drill holes lower on the mock U thing you built and lower it checking how far you can go without blocking anchor's release (most likely) or if you overdo it anchor's retrieval. On my 20kg Mantus and I think slightly aft, my U bracket (used to secure the bow stanchion) is around 100mm high, yours looks like 200-250mm? Easier to test with a piece of hardwood and two small cutoffs of ply, bolt them together and slide them inside your mock.

Finally, get a 50-60mm wide 3mm thick and say 400mm long piece of SS and get it formed in a U. Drill, bolt, done! I'd do two bolts on each side so that it wont have a tendency to turn around, but leave that after you've used it in anger and you're happy it wont foul the anchor...

easy :p

cheers

V.

PS. hope you're not offended by calling your masterpiece a mock :D
 
I got excited when i seen the post saying Project, i thought you had bought a project boat:(

Not sure what you have made/how it works but it looks impressive ;)

Now remove the tape and fix the chunk thats missing.

So what ever it is, either a mock up or a cock up , you made it so its awsome :)
 
waynes world said:
I got excited when i seen the post saying Project, i thought you had bought a project boat:(

Not sure what you have made/how it works but it looks impressive ;)

Now remove the tape and fix the chunk thats missing.

So what ever it is, either a mock up or a cock up , you made it so its awsome :)
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Thank you Wayne. The gelcoat man is due to come soon, and once I've put a twenty kilo galvanized Rocna in place of my old anchor no one will see it!
 
Bouba said:
Thank you Wayne. The gelcoat man is due to come soon, and once I've put a twenty kilo galvanized Rocna in place of my old anchor no one will see it!
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Bouba, slightly confused, what boat have you got? 20kg Rocna (if you're serious and not joking) is something for 40ft or so? thought you had a swift trawler or am I mixing things up?

cheers

V.
 
vas said:
Bouba, slightly confused, what boat have you got? 20kg Rocna (if you're serious and not joking) is something for 40ft or so? thought you had a swift trawler or am I mixing things up?

cheers

V.
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Vas, I have a Swift Trawler 34, it came with a sixteen kilo Delta. For the first winter i was very happy with it. But during the summer it dragged twice, in light winds. This i believe is because i put out less chain, but in summer in the Côte D'azur there is not much choice. So I decided to upgrade the anchor to a Rocna (its well recommended on this forum) but they don't appear to do a 18kg so it's a 20. On the Rocna website you can download a full sized paper or cardboard anchor that can be assembled (my next project!) and test on the bow roller and also if the fluke will hit the bow gelcoat. I will then see if my winch is man enough (but it can lift my anchor with about 20 kilos of weed on it). The galvanized model is about €500 and available locally
 
if the Rocna doesn't fit, try Mantus, extremely happy with mine and should be similarly priced. Theoretically newer gen than the Rocna...

V.
 
I just saw the Mantus on display at the boat show today, I walked right past it because I was looking for Rocna. Back to doing more research.......
 
noelex (posting on the PBO) has done extensive work in testing and reporting on the Mantus. I think most of that was posted on the cruisers forum

V.
 
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