Project Sealine 305 Statesman (with pics)

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This is just a random thread I thought i'd throw up as it's a boring January evening.

Friend bought a neglected (sitting 7 years) Sealine 305 Statesman (1990) with AQAD41's. The bonus was that she was fresh water use.

Good news is that the engines fired up easily (direct fed some diesel to the filter, changed oil) - good stuff!

Bad news is that there's a lot to do. Leaving the cosmetics out (he can sort that himself), here's what i've done so far (I'm usually away travelling in January, but not this year, so had lots of free time).

This is essentially a 'no budget' project. Things are being done on a shoe-string (not my idea of a restoration, but hey ho). Thankfully my friend is listening to me and is not skimping on essentials such as engine / out-drive bits, new calorifier, battery charger etc.

ENGINES
Find all missing drain plugs (engines were drained, thankfully)
Drain and flush coolant
Drian oil (new stuff in)
Remove impellers
Tappets (all OK)
Filters etc. (all usual service items)

WIRING
Remove all old redundant cabling
New Batteries
New heavy duty cabling (75mm sq) - New Battery Switches - New Bus Bar
New bilge pump inc. new wiring for same

OUTDRIVES
Remove
New water pickup hoses and connectors
New Bellows
New Propshaft seals
New Oil along with usual service stuff

DOMESTIC WATER
Take out old calorifier (it had split, wasn't drained) - had to cut an extra little section to remove

TANKS
Drain and remove sludge / diesel bug by cutting inspection hatches (new covers going on this week)

SEACOCKS
Replace both

BILGES
Serious clean out - took about 7 flushes to get the whole bilge areas clean (yuck)

TRIM PUMPS
All new relays / wiring to the pumps
New wiring for trim buttons (some didn't work)

MISC
Re-seal leaking silicone seals
New engine hatches (currently epoxied)

TRIM TABS
New bellows (Eltrim)

BATTERY CHARGER
Fit new one

I'm sure there's other misc bits i'm forgetting.

I estimate approx 300 hours labour will go in to her altogether. We're a small club and a core few of us love mucking into a project like this. We're being paid in beer and food :)

Here's some random pictues to pass the time... My Cranchi is just next to the 305, they can be friends :) Also pics of some dodgy wiring etc...

https://imgur.com/a/GfrUfFR
 
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alt said:
This is just a random thread I thought i'd throw up as it's a boring January evening.

Friend bought a neglected (sitting 7 years) Sealine 305 Statesman (1990) with AQAD41's. The bonus was that she was fresh water use.

Good news is that the engines fired up easily (direct fed some diesel to the filter, changed oil) - good stuff!

Bad news is that there's a lot to do. Leaving the cosmetics out (he can sort that himself), here's what i've done so far (I'm usually away travelling in January, but not this year, so had lots of free time).

This is essentially a 'no budget' project. Things are being done on a shoe-string (not my idea of a restoration, but hey ho). Thankfully my friend is listening to me and is not skimping on essentials such as engine / out-drive bits, new calorifier, battery charger etc.

ENGINES
Find all missing drain plugs (engines were drained, thankfully)
Drain and flush coolant
Drian oil (new stuff in)
Remove impellers
Tappets (all OK)
Filters etc. (all usual service items)

WIRING
Remove all old redundant cabling
New Batteries
New heavy duty cabling (75mm sq) - New Battery Switches - New Bus Bar
New bilge pump inc. new wiring for same

OUTDRIVES
Remove
New water pickup hoses and connectors
New Bellows
New Propshaft seals
New Oil along with usual service stuff

DOMESTIC WATER
Take out old calorifier (it had split, wasn't drained) - had to cut an extra little section to remove

TANKS
Drain and remove sludge / diesel bug by cutting inspection hatches (new covers going on this week)

SEACOCKS
Replace both

BILGES
Serious clean out - took about 7 flushes to get the whole bilge areas clean (yuck)

TRIM PUMPS
All new relays / wiring to the pumps
New wiring for trim buttons (some didn't work)

MISC
Re-seal leaking silicone seals
New engine hatches (currently epoxied)

TRIM TABS
New bellows (Eltrim)

BATTERY CHARGER
Fit new one

I'm sure there's other misc bits i'm forgetting.

I estimate approx 300 hours labour will go in to her altogether. We're a small club and a core few of us love mucking into a project like this. We're being paid in beer and food :)

Here's some random pictues to pass the time... My Cranchi is just next to the 305, they can be friends :) Also pics of some dodgy wiring etc...

https://imgur.com/a/GfrUfFR
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When you look at those photos, when you see the list of the jobs you’ve done and the ones yet to do you can appreciate why people buy new, even if it means you have to fight your way past beautiful girls at boat shows:)
Good luck with the project :encouragement:
 
300 hours, what a bunch of slackers?. Seriously looks like the boat will come back to life beautifully. Fingers crossed no nasty surprises in the outdrives.
 
I look forward to following this thread and see what you discover along the way. Isn't it scary though, how easily one can be seduced by a nice shiny boat, with sparkling chrome and stainless steel, sleek lines etc. while blindly ignoring what may well lie beneath those seductive exteriors. Bet of luck with it and I hope you don't find any nasty surprises.
 
sogood said:
I look forward to following this thread and see what you discover along the way. Isn't it scary though, how easily one can be seduced by a nice shiny boat, with sparkling chrome and stainless steel, sleek lines etc. while blindly ignoring what may well lie beneath those seductive exteriors. Bet of luck with it and I hope you don't find any nasty surprises.
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All of the nasty surprises have been found. The only thing we have yet to touch is the out-drives. They *seem* OK, apart from the usuals: Propshaft bearings / bellows / water pickup elbows. We'll take them off as soon as the bits arrive (next week) and hope for the best.

The only other issue so far is that the flybridge is leaking like a f****d fridge, from the instruments (mainly the compass) - i'll leave that up to my friend to remove and re-seal.

After that (and the list above), everything else is cosmetic which he can deal with himself.

All in, inc. new calorifier, battery charter, service items, electricals etc. he'll be getting away with approx. £2 - £2.5k in materials. The major cost would have been the labour.
 
third pic is brilliant!
corroded and burnt!
a macro lens on an slr would produce some nice (and v.confusing!) images out of that, hope you kept it :p

good luck, hope the food and beer is good...

V.
 
This thread does explain why project boats are so cheap.
It's only viable if you can either do the work yourself, or you can rope in friends in exchange for a few beers.
 
Bouba said:
When you look at those photos, when you see the list of the jobs you’ve done and the ones yet to do you can appreciate why people buy new, even if it means you have to fight your way past beautiful girls at boat shows:)
Good luck with the project :encouragement:
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O your wrong ,he percentage of peeps who buy new must be less than one percent,if peeps had to buy new they would never enjoy boating ,I said to swimbo yesterday ,we have just spent 100 times more for our 8th boat do we enjoy boat 100 times more,No just the same
 
Bouba said:
When you look at those photos, when you see the list of the jobs you’ve done and the ones yet to do you can appreciate why people buy new, even if it means you have to fight your way past beautiful girls at boat shows:)
Good luck with the project :encouragement:
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This makes no sense.

I am having much more fun helping my friend restore his boat than I would looking at a price list.

Also, like me, this guy is in his very early 30s, so fair play to him...he has the yard, help and tools to restore and have fixed everything that could have been just thrown away and replaced.

Granted this wouldn't be a boat for me (my Cranchi is mint), but each to their own
 
I was replying to others but the mobile version keeps deleting my posts...ill respond later when at home.
 
alt said:
This makes no sense.

I am having much more fun helping my friend restore his boat than I would looking at a price list.

Also, like me, this guy is in his very early 30s, so fair play to him...he has the yard, help and tools to restore and have fixed everything that could have been just thrown away and replaced.

Granted this wouldn't be a boat for me (my Cranchi is mint), but each to their own
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Ok, so nobody got my joke. Not the first time:(
I was linking this thread to the other thread on Boot Düsseldorf 2019 where we were complaining how difficult it is to get past the gate keepers............fell flat I know.....sorry:(
 
Took out the manual bilge pump as the rubber seal had a crack in it, going back in tomorrow. It was a pig - Had to take the side section (at the stern, covering the air holes) off to gain access, and put hands through the air holes.

The sides of the bathing platform (which have a runner going up the side of the boat) will be loosened tomorrow, with stronger marine ply backing with huge nuts to bolt back in... the platform was sagging.

One strange thing is that the strengthener bars for the bathing platform book into the sides of the transom shields! (where the slider pin normally goes) - I really don't know if it's OE or not, but it seems crazy. We'll tackle that tomorrow and i'll update with pics (we were so busy today didn't think of taking pics until it was dark).

We also measured the holes for the diesel tanks which we cut out, so some time during the week we'll get covers for those and then tap threads for screws to go in (with a thick gasket, of course).

I also suspect that the trim senders are knackered, so going to add those to the order of parts.
 
Fair play that’s some work! I saw this boat go up on the Inland Comments and advice page. I believe it was on the Erne maybe?

Are you removing all the windows to reseal? Don’t be tempted to go with tec7 or whatever. They’ll be stuck in forever. Butyl based sealer is the way to go.
 
Stickers removed (they were tatty) - now remove all the bits of glue.

Also rear panel (covering the air holes) removed to gain access to manual bilge pump. Will be replaced with stainless screws (yeah, last person didn't use stainless screws)

Also, 10mm hole cut in the front bulkhead (under the bed) to reveal more water. She's now finally dry inside! Industrial de-humidifier installed.

Also removed approx 15 metres of old cable (mainly radar cable) - I can now finally make sense of most of the wiring. I am shocked that domestic connectors were used above the saloon, in the flybridge void. It looks OE. Also, as things went on, also domestic connectors used. I'll sort that out by crimping all the cables and making a waterproof bus-bar(s) around the boat where necessary. (Unless someone has a better idea)

Not much more I can do until engine / out-drive bits arrive... should get all the out-drive(s) bits done in one day. After that we'll fire her up in barrels to check no engine leaks etc.

Then, we'll remove the bathing platform sides, re-attatch with new bolts (bigger washers and timber backings inside the hull).

After that, up to the owner to clean / compound / polish and fill the fridge with beer for me.

https://imgur.com/gallery/0zBMCyw
 
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Bouba said:
Ok, so nobody got my joke. Not the first time:(
I was linking this thread to the other thread on Boot Düsseldorf 2019 where we were complaining how difficult it is to get past the gate keepers............fell flat I know.....sorry:(
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You win some, you lose some :) All taken in good humour, don't worry.
 
Whopper said:
Fair play that’s some work! I saw this boat go up on the Inland Comments and advice page. I believe it was on the Erne maybe?

Are you removing all the windows to reseal? Don’t be tempted to go with tec7 or whatever. They’ll be stuck in forever. Butyl based sealer is the way to go.
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To be honest, I haven't looked at the windows at all, and I won't be. That's a s***ty job that i'll leave to the owner. There is, for sure, 1 or 2 window leaks. For now, we will concentrate on the leaks from the flybridge (instruments) - Once that's done, he can look at the windows.
 
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