John_Lana
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If he is even half-way serious about working in the industry, he should be looking for work on a vessel bigger than 24 meters, and should hold the STCW95 cert as a minimum, to be taken seriously.
John
John
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Renegade_Master
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Hi John will we see you at the LIBS this year? Phil & I will be there together with Rob on Sun Coasts stand N1704. Be good to see you Clive
John_Lana
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Hi Clive,
No, I will be in the WIndies for the winter season during Boat Show Time. I fly back out around the begining of December.
Cheers,
John
No, I will be in the WIndies for the winter season during Boat Show Time. I fly back out around the begining of December.
Cheers,
John
andylink
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It doesn't matter what size of vessel you are on, over 24m or not to be taken seriously. There are plenty of jobs on sub superyacht sized vessels where the responsibilities are just the same. It is also easy to climb through the ranks on smaller boats giving you more responsibility and less brass polishing enabling you to transfer up to larger vessels in a higher capacity.
YMO minimum including the STCW95 qualifications e.g. basic training modules and sea survival to start, log all sea miles and apply for MCA seamans discharge book.
It is a great industry but more hard work than the glamorous reputation that it has and also very long hours when chartering with huests.
Andy
YMO minimum including the STCW95 qualifications e.g. basic training modules and sea survival to start, log all sea miles and apply for MCA seamans discharge book.
It is a great industry but more hard work than the glamorous reputation that it has and also very long hours when chartering with huests.
Andy
jfm
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TCM and John Lana are right. You need STCW95, not cos a legal requirement, but because no-one will take you seriously otherwise. It costs about €700 in course fees, by the way, at current Antibes training centre prices.
In fact, to start out as deckie, that's all you need. You only need commercially endorsed YM if you want to be skipper. And then there are various class grades above YM that allow you to be skipper of progressively higher tonnage boats. See MCA website or google
After a few years the career crewers often face choice of work as part of (say) 10 crew on 50m ish mega yachts, where getting a captain position can take you till you're praps 40, or being skipper of a smaller boats say up to 30m, where 30ys old captains are common.
TCM is right. Getting work aint about being able to drive/nav a boat. We all know that's easypeasy. The requirement is that your employers like you. Skills are managing the boat and crew, being a suitable entertainments manager for charter guests, etc. On a small boat a skipper needs to multitask, ie help the stewies serve food, not get all jobsworthy and insist on just boat driving. So, personality is crucial, and looks matter a bit too.
The big European centres are Antibes and Palma. The social scene is fab, there are huge groups of friendly/outgoing/goodlooking (otherwise they wouldn't have jobs in this industry) 20-40 somethings working at various levels on yachts and they all hang out in crew bars and such like. They have great sex lives too - it aint a career that fits with wife/kids/mortgage
The money isn't as bad as people have said. You wont ever be super rich or able to buy a 30m boat on this money but a full time skipper on a 24m might get 4-4500/month plus tips. A stewie/deckie on that size boat might get 2500/month. A super dooper engineer on a 40m+ will often get 7500 and one I know has 9000. Skippers on 40-60m can see 12,000/month. And so on. All these are euros/month, tax free, all food paid for, all accom included on the larger boats. So the salary kinda just piles up while you work your ass off during the season. Tips from charter guests can be decent. At the crappy end you might see 500/crew member for a week's charter, and at the partypartytime top end this season it was 9000/per crew member for a week on one antibes boat. My stewie has received 2000/week tips from a week's charter. If you are on an owner-use-only boat many will tip the crew end of season (if they want them back next season), but many dont either. If you hang around in crew bars the other crew will know any prospective employer - the owners of bigger boats all have reputations among the crew community
Also on the money front you need to remeber that except for senior crew on big yachts the career can peter out at age 40 or sooner. No one employs bezimmerframed crew. For many that's fine because the wife/kids/mortgage thing is what many folk then
Good luck anyway
In fact, to start out as deckie, that's all you need. You only need commercially endorsed YM if you want to be skipper. And then there are various class grades above YM that allow you to be skipper of progressively higher tonnage boats. See MCA website or google
After a few years the career crewers often face choice of work as part of (say) 10 crew on 50m ish mega yachts, where getting a captain position can take you till you're praps 40, or being skipper of a smaller boats say up to 30m, where 30ys old captains are common.
TCM is right. Getting work aint about being able to drive/nav a boat. We all know that's easypeasy. The requirement is that your employers like you. Skills are managing the boat and crew, being a suitable entertainments manager for charter guests, etc. On a small boat a skipper needs to multitask, ie help the stewies serve food, not get all jobsworthy and insist on just boat driving. So, personality is crucial, and looks matter a bit too.
The big European centres are Antibes and Palma. The social scene is fab, there are huge groups of friendly/outgoing/goodlooking (otherwise they wouldn't have jobs in this industry) 20-40 somethings working at various levels on yachts and they all hang out in crew bars and such like. They have great sex lives too - it aint a career that fits with wife/kids/mortgage
The money isn't as bad as people have said. You wont ever be super rich or able to buy a 30m boat on this money but a full time skipper on a 24m might get 4-4500/month plus tips. A stewie/deckie on that size boat might get 2500/month. A super dooper engineer on a 40m+ will often get 7500 and one I know has 9000. Skippers on 40-60m can see 12,000/month. And so on. All these are euros/month, tax free, all food paid for, all accom included on the larger boats. So the salary kinda just piles up while you work your ass off during the season. Tips from charter guests can be decent. At the crappy end you might see 500/crew member for a week's charter, and at the partypartytime top end this season it was 9000/per crew member for a week on one antibes boat. My stewie has received 2000/week tips from a week's charter. If you are on an owner-use-only boat many will tip the crew end of season (if they want them back next season), but many dont either. If you hang around in crew bars the other crew will know any prospective employer - the owners of bigger boats all have reputations among the crew community
Also on the money front you need to remeber that except for senior crew on big yachts the career can peter out at age 40 or sooner. No one employs bezimmerframed crew. For many that's fine because the wife/kids/mortgage thing is what many folk then
Good luck anyway
