Princess p45 jetski stand

[Hurricane]

To save the OP looking up Novurania, this is my current tender.





But it is usually stored on the flybridge





Obviously, this is a much larger dinghy setup.
But my point is that, if you can push the limits, you will get a more useful tender.

 

[Soul_dancee]

So if the available width in the platform is 3.12 meters and leaving 30cm for in and out space, a tend that is 2.8 meters long should do the job ?.

 

[John100156]

I checked the crane lifting capacity on my 2002 P45 which was 200kg, I personally would be confident this could lift and the BP stow say 250kg, I am not certain it could take a heavy Jetski, If it helps I was considering various tenders and happy to forward information should you require it.

I could get a 3.5m tender on the back of my F43 but the side quarters on the P45 are quite high, so you would need to lift and hang it out quite a bit which could cause issues when visiting some marinas, although the way around that is to drop the tender before you berth and drive it in...!

 

[John100156]

These were some Tenders I looked at:

 

[Hurricane]

Have you considered the bow overhang, John
The bit that the tender can overhang the bathing platform cheeks when the tender is on its chocks.
Like in this photo


OK - thats the Novurania agian, but I think it demonstrates where you can get some extra space.
In fact, if you had taller chocks, you could gain even more.

I neven intended putting my Novurania on the bathing platform.
If you look back on this forum 3 or 4 years, you will see that I wasn't even sure if it would fit on the flybridge!!!
The intention was make it fit on the flybridge and then to tow it from anchorage to anchorage.
After the first season, I "offered it up" to the bathing platform and to my amazement, it fitted.
Even the chocks that I designed for the flybridge worked so I made then transferrable between the FB and the BT.

So, I still say - "push the limits".

That said, it would be a PIA to take it off every time that you want to stern berth in a marina.
The OP (Soul_dancee) has a paserelle so he could keave his tender on the bathing platform when stern berthing.
@John100156 - I know you don't have a parerelle but this puts you in an even better position.
You will need a paserelle anyway so making one that fits over a tender would just be part of designing the paserelle.

Sorry guys, I just think so much can be gained by having the biggest tender you can fit.

 

[Soul_dancee]

I was thinking of extending the stand of the tender so i can move the center of the tender 10cm back and 10cm right as you can see it the attached picture. Not sure what would be the side effect but it might allow to extend the size of the tender to 3 meters plus.

 

[Soul_dancee]

I checked the crane lifting capacity on my 2002 P45 which was 200kg, I personally would be confident this could lift and the BP stow say 250kg, I am not certain it could take a heavy Jetski, If it helps I was considering various tenders and happy to forward information should you require it.

I could get a 3.5m tender on the back of my F43 but the side quarters on the P45 are quite high, so you would need to lift and hang it out quite a bit which could cause issues when visiting some marinas, although the way around that is to drop the tender before you berth and drive it in...!
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Really neat boat

I think Williams 280 would fit fine but they are expensive.

 

[sharpness]

So if the available width in the platform is 3.12 meters and leaving 30cm for in and out space, a tend that is 2.8 meters long should do the job ?.

I can confirm a 2.8m Rib is the perfect size for a P45 to allow boarding access from either side (assuming the passerelle doesn't get in the way).

 

[Soul_dancee]

I can confirm a 2.8m Rib is the perfect size for a P45 to allow boarding access from either side (assuming the passerelle doesn't get in the way).
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Looks neat, what kind of tender?

 

[sharpness]

Looks neat, what kind of tender?

Nothing fancy I'm afraid. A 2.8m Ribeye.

 

[lambohill]

We keep seadoo rxp on the swim platform of the pershing 50. We lift it with the passarelle onto the fixed platform, but it takes big passarelle and requires trimming under full fuel load. I attach a couple of photos to give you an idea. We fitted on teak chocks with s/s dowels. IMHO NOTHING beats a jetski if you like high speed thrills.. In fact if I could fit 2, I would.

 

[Soul_dancee]

Am trying to fabricate the base for a tender stand but the only option available with the princess dealer in Dubai is the one aatached in the picture which seems that it's designed for 60+ feet princess.

Wondering what would the base for P45 look like....!!! Pictures would be really helpful.

Thanks

 

[Hurricane]

I can confirm a 2.8m Rib is the perfect size for a P45 to allow boarding access from either side (assuming the passerelle doesn't get in the way).
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Great pics for this thread.
Just shows what can be done.
Great little tender and easy to use.
If I was being critical, I could say that there is still some more space for a bigger tender.
There seems to me to be a lot of space available at the tender's bow, especially if you let the bow overhang the boats bathing platform cheeks.
Also there is lots of space inboardwhich would allow a wider tender.
My Novurania almost touches the Princess cockpit transom.
In your case this would make for a really easy launch and recover.
But, as I say, I would put the biggest tender that I could fit on.

 

[dj43]

I personally disagree with oversizing your tender, we have a 16m plus boat, we currently have two tenders a Zodiac yacht line 3.6 with a 40 yam , also a Highfied 3m with a yam 25 two stroke, the zodiac takes up a fair part of platform ,where as the Highfeild gives a lot more usable area , so you can still use the bathing platform and get all around it ,the Highfied is lightweight being Aluminium ,and so much more easy to lift on and off,and has no noticeable effect on the boats waterline, both go very well , we found that this year with limited use the Highfeild was the more practical , I agree with the comments re jets, great fun but not very practical , we must have been lucky as all the time we owned one had no problems at all, but I flush all my tenders out with fresh water every time they are used,

 

[John100156]

Mmmm I tend to agree with Mike, its good to have a decent size Tender on the back, if you can squeeze it on. I also looked at the Cabrio Tenders, I quite liked the motor and folding transom arrangement.

On my F43, I first had a 3.4 Avon Rover twin skin GRP bottom then upgraded to an Ali bottomed Ribeye 3.5TS, both with a 20hp 2T Mariner. It did hang out a bit off the back. The Cooney passerelle crane easily lifted it though much greater lifting capacity! I will not mention a service tower incident, it was the crews fault, oh dear I just did...!

Whilst the 2.8m would fit well on the BP on a P45, I reckon I would prefer to try a larger Tender, not sure I would opt for a Jetski though, great to have one to play with, but I would much prefer a Tender, probably the Williams Minijet 280 but soooo very expensive to buy and maintain, so for me, I will be looking at hanging a 3.2 or even 3.4 out a bit if I can.

I do not have any pictures of my existing chocks, but hope to visit the boat when on a work trip to Spain before the end of this year, C19 permitting, if I do, I will take some photos and dims.

 

[nw04jen]

Just interested in this as I have an Avon 310 with 25 2T Mercury on back - goes great but been on an S42 Sealine with crane - now changing to F46 Sealine which is beamy boat but with high cheeks but has powerful passerelle so lifting capacity greatly increased - wondering about Avon Seasport 340 - has anyone put offset chocks on their swim platform so tender sits slightly more towards the water than close to the stern

 

[John100156]

I bet that old set-up went really well.

Not sure of the dims, but I reckon with the F46 you should be OK with an Avon SS340, nice tender, just need to watch the Passarelle hydraulic ram, may need to hang her out a bit, but reckon you would get away with it and worth a try.

Have you tried posting on www.sealineforum.com Luke is the moderator, I am sure someone will have done something similar, they were very helpful when I had my F43....

 

[nw04jen]

I have yes but F46 like hens teeth...my310 with 25 is more fun than the main boat! About 25kts ...would just move her across to seasport ..like Avon with GRP hull...want some offset chock system...seems common in Aus and US to have rail system so can move tender aft of swim deck and lift

 

[nw04jen]

Great pics for this thread.
Just shows what can be done.
Great little tender and easy to use.
If I was being critical, I could say that there is still some more space for a bigger tender.
There seems to me to be a lot of space available at the tender's bow, especially if you let the bow overhang the boats bathing platform cheeks.
Also there is lots of space inboardwhich would allow a wider tender.
My Novurania almost touches the Princess cockpit transom.
In your case this would make for a really easy launch and recover.
But, as I say, I would put the biggest tender that I could fit on.

What chocks are you using, as it looks set in the perfect position?

 

[Hurricane]

What chocks are you using, as it looks set in the perfect position?

I made the chocks myself.
Not that difficult to do.
The best but more difficult way is to get the tender's hull profile from the dinghy manufacturer.
But you could make up some templates by cutting cardboard to fit.

I bought some nice bits of teak from a timber yard and transferred the profile from my templates to the wood.
Then found a local carpenter/joiner with a bandsaw who cut the teak into the shapes that I wanted.

My chocks are a little more complicated because I had to allow for an overhang over the flybridge edge - GRP moulding:-

I also made some changes to the profile by adding an extra "V" on the aft edge before cutting the teak.
I was very worried that it would be difficult to locate the tender onto the chock past the crane on the flybridge.
The idea was that we could "rest" the tender on aft "V" before finally seating the tender in place.
This process has proved unnecessary but it is great for cleaning/accessing the underside of the tender.





I have also found a few more photos of the socket and pin fittings.
You probably won't find them available anywhere.
I had to have some made by a local stainless steel fabricator.