Princess 42 with TAMD63 underpowered?

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I am still looking to change but no longer need 3 cabins.

How will the P42 perform with these engines, anyone know? I don't see how we will cruise much faster than 22-24 knots.

Any thoughts or advice wrt the P42 with these engines are welcome.

/Michael
 
Unfortunately I have no experience on that particular combo, but I believe there are forumites who have had those engines on a Phantom 42 which should make a pretty valid comparison.

However, I have the TAMD75's on my Phantom 43 and I absolutely love the power reserve those engines provide. Full tanks of water & fuel and loads of cruising gear make little difference on the way she just goes. I normally cruise at around 24 - 25 knots @ 2100 -2150 rpm and the engines feel very relaxed.

I'm sure a P42 will go fine with the 63's but having had a slightly under powered boat in the past (and I'm not saying that a P42 on 63' is) I really like the effortless going the bigger engines provide.
 
We had 63P engines on our phantom 42 and D6 on the Princess 42. Of the 2 obviously the D6 was a "better" unit interns of cleanliness and absolute power. The 63P was fine until the hull got dirty when you noticed more soot on the back and it struggled more to get on the plane. The D6 still had a definite transition but it was less marked.

The answer is it will work, we had the phantom 42 for getting on 10 years and I never felt there was a problem.

If a few quid more bought a D6 engined boat I'd buy it but I suspect there will be a significant difference.

Henry
Henry
 
The princess is far heavier than the phantom 42, I can tell you now it won't give great results , I look after p 42 boat no 1 it has 63p in and is maxed out at 25 knots , are you looking at the p42 at burton waters? I was stood looking at it only today, yes it's cheap but it was a lake boat. Not sure if that may suit you ? It's a very clean boat and hardly used. I'm in market for similar . The phantom 43 is a great boat with the 74/75 480 engines in . It's down to personal choice . The earlier phantom 40/42 is quite happy with 63p 370 hp as its really a 40 with a longer platform that sits in fresh air over the stern , it didn't add any planing length. The princess 42 is also a wider boat and based on my late fathers theory of " a longer thin one goes better than a short fat one" I think he was talking boats not women.
 
I too had a phantom 42 with those engines and it was fine, just. Max was about 29knots and a bit less when dirty underneath

Princess 42 is a much bigger boat i believe, so I would be worried that the 63p will struggle

I also agree with Henryf that the 63p splurts more soot onto the transom than later electronically governed and injected diesels
 
Well there you have it. The forum has the answers.

It's funny I didn't notice the difference in weight between the Fairline and the Princess which is probably testament to how good the D6 were.

Henry :)
 
Yes, thanks all and I have my answer. 25 knots is too slow for top speed, I was hoping it would do 29. Paul, it is indeed the same boat and I liked its 1 owner, hardly used attributes as well as it lacking proper nav gear, I could then potentially have fitted the latest generation.
 
A_8 said:
Yes, thanks all and I have my answer. 25 knots is too slow for top speed, I was hoping it would do 29. Paul, it is indeed the same boat and I liked its 1 owner, hardly used attributes as well as it lacking proper nav gear, I could then potentially have fitted the latest generation.
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A real shame as its a nice boat and burton waters are good people to deal with, I've been there a few times doing engine surveys, they really do look after you while your there, the staff are very good at answering questions about the boat your interested in and they do arrange part exchanges as well. I did think if it was cheap enough to consider a repower with cummins 480s as there a very smooth and quiet unit and mate up with the same gearbox, also very low hour 63p motors will make good money into the used market, it would just end up a bit of a hybrid boat.
I cannot understand why someone would spec a boat like that. But each to there own.
 
Jimmy the builder had one with d6 435 motors, he would answer fuel consumption and top speed figures.

I know the 42 with tamd75s loaded will make 30 knots.
 
NoIllusion said:
Looks as though (via researching brokers adds) the dry weight of a Phantom 42 is around 11,000kg as opposed to 14,000kg for the Princess 42.
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I think that the 14000 kgs weight Princess gives is for a loaded boat. It should still be about 1k more dry to a Phantom 42 though. And every1 says boats are getting lighter, nice boat show talk....

Also worth to note that the Fairline 42 Phantom was born as the 40 1995 till 96 and then bathing platform extended to become a 42. So in theory it was a smaller boat.
A Princess 40 and Fairline 42 Phantom are just ok with those engines (29-30 knots max), but IMO are small on a Princess 42
 
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