Princess 35 Sedan ?

Pretty sure that they did offer a non flybridge version of this and other Princess of that era for inland waterway use.

Totally agree though, I'd expect it to be worth less than a flybridge version.
 
I have brochures of the era and Princess never offered this officially by my understanding.
They did offer this on the previous 33 model.

On paper this should have less value, but if you want to inland cruise and a Princess 35 is what you want it is definitely better then the standard flybridge 35.
So in reality it is about what you need.
 
How Much...the man is having a larf.
Although Princess did appear to offer the odd custom built P35 including one with a little single engine , still around on the Thames and a P38 with two 80HP 4 cylinder jobs supposed to have been built for cross channel swimmers, do not think they built a Sedan for the general market.
Mebbe produced as a prototype to break into the Irish hire trade.
Non fly versions of boats do come up every now and then, including a Corniche 31 and a P388.
One was rumoured to be as a result of a cobbled up rebuild after an accident with bridge.
 
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oldgit said:
How Much...the man is having a larf.
Although Princess did appear to offer the odd custom built P35 including one with a little single engine , still around on the Thames and a P38 with two 80HP 4 cylinder jobs supposed to have been built for cross channel swimmers, do not think they built a Sedan for the general market.
Mebbe produced as a prototype to break into the Irish hire trade.
Non fly versions of boats do come up every now and then, including a Corniche 31 and a P388.
One was rumoured to be as a result of a cobbled up rebuild after an accident with bridge.
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Seen at east 4 on the Thames including the one with the little single diesel, I think some were made for a timeshare company.
 
I think the P35 with a single engine might be 'Brother Maynard' which was a rental boat, hence the spec. The interior wasn't what you would expect either!!
 
Did a few years ago go and have a look at both the hopelessly under powered P38 which was in Dover and the P35 Sedan on Thames.
Both on the market for ages, obviously difficult to shift, asking prices did reflect this.
The P35 did sell, the P38 still surfaces on the market every now and then, it may have moved inland.

Make: Princess
Model: 35
Year: 1986

Engine Type: Twin Diesel
Drive: Shaft Drives
Layout: Non-Flybridge


Vessel Name: ROLY-B
 
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If the layout is twin cabin then it's a good solution to cruising Shannon navigation as you can get anywhere with that air draft whereas the flybridge version may not get up the Shannon-Erne waterway (open to correction there however). Moreover I think it would have appeal to older boaters who wouldn't be keen to climb up flybridge steps. Most importantly, Irish weather renders an open flybridge redundant imo.

Would have to consider the pros of twin unprotected props in Shannon canals however, known plenty who have hit something whereas single protected ones rarely hit anything. Still plenty of twin engine boats on the river however.

This type of boat must appeal to someone interested in cruising European canals as it could handle getting there and still fit under most bridges.

So I think the non flybridge has an appeal and also it's a rare beast, still overpriced but as we all know, a boats only worth what someone will pay.
 
Thanks for all the replies.
The reason why I asked the question was that I was looking to get a coupe style cruiser as getting up and down a ladder would be an issue for me ,but the only ones within my budget was older Nimbus boats and the wife dosen't like the layout , the saloon is a bit tight with the galley there. Also we are starting back inland , on the Shannon as it happens, so bridge clearance has to be considered.
We had a sports cruiser before which suited me perfectly but she said no more canopies.
We decided then to go for a flybridge and just not go up top , maybe get the radar arch taken off while we're on the river.
I have been looking for a while for a 35 but I want to get late one with the transom gate .
So when a saw the ad it got me thinking , could we take the top off or was this a mad idea , as in would it really devalue the boat .Here is a few pictures I found from a forum in Norway and it looks fairly easy , it's just a single moulding.
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Personally think the P35 made just about the best use of interior space and layout until Sealine came along.
Pity Sealine lost the plot regards build quality, sea keeping and the lumps, bumps and the always room for some more chrome strip design philosophy :):):)
 
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As mentioned, they did the sedan version intended for inland use. I think they were usually single engine and modest on horsepower.
As for the price....kidding the,selves on !
There is a well known P35 for sale on Loch Lomond for about 40k. Been in freshwater all its life and in great condition....also it has a flybridge, is 5 years newer and has twin tamd41s. It was used as the 5star Cameron house hotel gin palace for entertaining the rich and famous for most of its life and is ironically named Gin sing. A lovely boat just waiting on a loving owner to clean her up. She will no doubt have endless receipts on file for extensive maintenance. It's on the marine sales Scotland website.
Probably it will seem dated to some, but I'm not sure there will be a better boat out there for the money. Old school princess build quality and fresh water preservation is a winner in my view.
 
That boat did appear on my radar. Although apparently well priced by UK averages by the time you add a flight or two to look at it and add transport costs (6-7K) to get it back to civilisation you could probably get a boat over here for less money.
Ignore UK asking prices,many of the boats currently advertised on both brokers and web sites have been up for ages(years ) and with the season practically over,most will not be going anywhere anytime soon.
Made on offer on a Scottish boat and was told to clear off, this did not stop the seller ringing me back a couple of hours later and saying he might just be interested.
Too late had just shaken hands on another boat at a considerably better price. :)
Only downside on non Volvo powered engines is they take up more space, especially when you need to get to water pumps.
However the plus with other power units is they tend to be 6 litre lumps,hence much less stressed than the rather weedy 3.6L VOLVO block.
One other thing from the photos the boat appears to be devoid of any nav gear and radar ?
Add in a decent plotter/radar/radio etc it will bump up considerably your buying cost,even if secondhand.
 
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Have you looked at this one in Belfast:
http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/1411637/

Has been up for a while. Earlier boat with no transom gate although on the Shannon you are 50% alongside a higher quay wall or lock so its less of an issue real world, far more relevant is how easy is it to step over the coaming into the cockpit (handholds etc.).

R.e. flybridge modification. You would need a non-flybridge for camlin river and acres lake/lough allen navigations (both small in terms of overall navigation but stunning btw.) but the Shannon-erne may be doable by dropping the radar arch alone, a quick search says that the lowest bridge is 3.2m (subject to correction here), what is the air draft of a p35 with arch lowered? If he right boat came along with a flybridge, I wouldn't necessarily let it stop me basically. You could always explore more restricted branches by dinghy.

Have you discounted aft cabin boats like Brooms? They are very popular on the Shannon but pose issues like more difficult access to bathing platforms etc. but conversely are easier to board from higher quays and locks. For my money a broom 10/70 would be ideal for the Shannon. Miles more room with a walk around double bed in comparison to a p35 and long keel to protect the props. Should be more achievable on price also. Most have an aft deck canopy for all weather driving on the aft deck however.
 
Ferris said:
. For my money a broom 10/70 would be ideal for the Shannon. Miles more room with a walk around double bed in comparison to a p35
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Airdraft according to Princess Heritage with arch down is.3.22 metres.probably the flybridge screen.
Got to take issue with you about interior volume of Broom 10.70 vs P35.
Looked at both recently in search for latest boat. Never thought to say this being a great fan of Brooms but the inside of the 10.70 is pokey, dated and gloomy compared to the Princess
The command bridge on the Broom will just about accommodate to small cats where as the Princess has got the very spacious saloon and cockpit will seat six with ease.
O Gawd, beginning to sound like Hayden,previous of this parish.:)
 
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Only looked at 10/70's online so I'll take your word for it, mostly due to them being Volvo powered, but I think the point stands for the cruising area, aft cabin types are popular there for a reason. We have a well worn continental 37 that 'just' fits most places on the Shannon/Erne. Design is a bit long in the tooth but it performs good service and provides good interior volume. Maybe the crown 37 is the sweet spot? Been on a few and I liked them, plenty on the Shannon also, just need one with volvos. Do still like the p35 however.
 
Ferris said:
Have you looked at this one in Belfast:
http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/1411637/

Has been up for a while. Earlier boat with no transom gate although on the Shannon you are 50% alongside a higher quay wall or lock so its less of an issue real world, far more relevant is how easy is it to step over the coaming into the cockpit (handholds etc.).


Have you discounted aft cabin boats like Brooms? They are very popular on the Shannon but pose issues like more difficult access to bathing platforms etc. but conversely are easier to board from higher quays and locks. For my money a broom 10/70 would be ideal for the Shannon. Miles more room with a walk around double bed in comparison to a p35 and long keel to protect the props. Should be more achievable on price also. Most have an aft deck canopy for all weather driving on the aft deck however.
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With the upgrades on the river over the past 10/15 years most of the public harbours have floating jetties and in the past we always moored stern in to allow me to step off and in locks SWMBO would always go up on deck .
I use a prosthetic leg so climbing over the coaming is not an option unless i really have to and as for an aft cabin, way to many steps and levels . Also i like to swim off the boat so getting up the ladder to the aft deck is a no no .
The Princess also has a separate platform which i would eventually like to change to a hi lo platform to make it easier to get out of the water.
 
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