Premier Marina's, Diesel and Soltron.

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As a premier customer I have been sent the following that may be of interest to others. However I can't help feeling that Premier have done a bit of a deal with Soltron and this is just a way for Soltron to push people toward their product using a little old-fashioned scaremongering. Perhaps one of the forum fuel experts on these matters can comment. I have used Marine 16 for some time and buy fuel from Premier. Should I be worried? I was under the impression that Marine 16 (and others) help breakdown big debris so that it doesn't block filters and is burnt in the fuel.


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IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE USE OF DIESEL FUEL TREATMENTS AND ADDITIVES WHEN LAYING YOUR BOAT UP FOR WINTER.

As many Premier customers are aware, Premier sells diesel fuels containing Soltron™ at its Brighton, Eastbourne, Chichester, Southsea, Port Solent, Gosport and Swanwick marinas. Solton™ is an advanced enzyme fuel technology developed to work in marine fuel oil to neutralise bacterial growth from contaminants such as ‘Diesel Bug’.

Laying up your boat for Winter
If you use the diesel sold at Premier Marinas (excl Falmouth) you should not add biocides or non-biocide additives to your fuel to treat it, or to prepare your fuel system for winter lay-up. In particular, you should not use the additives and treatments described below as they will prevent the Soltron™ in your fuel from carrying out its work in keeping your fuel stable across the winter and preventing your filters from clogging.

Solton™ is the only fuel treatment to be used with the diesel fuels purchased at all Premier Marinas – other than Falmouth. If you have mixed other fuels, including fuels bought overseas, with the diesel fuels bought at Premier Marinas, and you are advised to dose your fuel tank with an enzyme, you should use Soltron™. Soltron™ is on sale in most chandlers and dosing instructions are on the container.

Do not add the following to your fuel:
Biocides
Biocides kill bacteria and fungus however, in removing one problem they create another by blocking filters and leaving the contamination to corrode in the tank. They are also environmentally unfriendly.
Biocides not to be used with diesel fuels containing Solton™:

• Star Brite – Bio Diesel
• Eradicate
• Marine 16 Diesel Bug Treatment
• GrotoMar 82
• Kathon
• Diesel plus (Yachticon)
• Wasp Biokem

Non-Biocides not to be used with diesel fuels containing Soltron:
The fuel treatments described below will prevent the Soltron™ in the diesel sold at Premier Marinas (other than Falmouth) from stabilising your fuel over the winter period and may cause further contamination.

• Forton
• Fuel Doctor
• Fuel set
• Startron

CLICK HERE for further advice about Soltron™ in diesel and laying your boat up for winter
 
I wondered the same.

Not best pleased to receive this as when I topped up my tank from Premier I already had a load of fuel that had been treated with Fuelset.

Have they kippered the fuel set as well as rendering their own treatment useless?
 
oh, classic FUD sales policy. Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.


I'd need to have the technical reasons for not mixing it -even inadvertently - with other fuel treatments.



EDIT

Here's the MSDS for Soltron:

http://finaltel.net/teamrsm/files/soltron-msds.pdf

It is 99.5% Aliphatic Petroleum Distillates


Here's the MSDS for Grotamar

http://www.aztecoils.co.uk/pdf/msds/MSDS-30112009025927.pdf


Here's the MSDS for Startron

http://mystarbrite.com/startron/images/stories/catalog/93008-msds-10-7-06.pdf


All the bl**dy functional same, Premier. You are bull****ting about Soltron being incompatible. :mad:
 
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Agree, it sounds like scare tactics, probably part of the deal they struck with whoever supplies their Soltron. A good indication is the fact that they say Startron "may cause further contamination", yet Startron is in fact the original US Soltron product!
 
I wasn't best pleased to receive this either, & wish they didn't tamper with the stuff.

I've never used a additives and never had a problem with the bug or blocked filters.

Also, I've not filled up at Chichester this year, due to concern over the bio diesel content. Saying that, I've yet to hear of any problems.

I thought the MBY test on Soltron proved that the stuff was useless anyway.
 
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To my knowledge Gosport Premier Fueling jetty is the only fueling point this side of the water for pleasure users. Just wondering if they give this information out to visitors buying fuel. ?
 
fuel additives

I am the MD of Marine 16 Ltd. I have 20 years of experience in developing biocidal sytems for critical hostpital areas and drug manufacuring plants. I have had fuel treatment companies for 20 years also. I am a boat owner, a Yactmaster Instructor sail and a Yachtmaster Motor Cruising, and Advanced Power Boat Instructor.

My products are used by the RNLI, Sea Start, River Canal Rescue and the Royal Marines.

My products do indeed kill enzyme product but they do not interfere with mine. My products go far further in safeguarding both you and your fuel than any other on the market. Cold weather can also kill enzymes and hot fuel from common rail diesels which is why I do not make them. I build my products from whatever I believe to be the best products available.

I will be placing an article on the website published by an independent company to show why enzyme products should not be used.

I am happy to answer any questions you may have and give my personal number 07973 917862
 
sarabande said:
Here's the MSDS for Startron
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I think from the title "gasoline additive" that this may refer to their petrol treatment rather than diesel treatment. I know they make both, since I almost bought the wrong one earlier this year. (Maybe they're really the same of course, but they are a slightly different colour...)
 
Having had a bad case of the bug last summer, and nearly getting into trouble because of it, I used Fuel Set in a massive dose to hit all my tanks. It cleared up the bug in very short time (3 days to perfectly clear from black and gloppy).

My fuel had been topped up in Brighton Marina.

Last time I checked (a number of years ago), Fuel set was the only additive that had been approved by Eberspacher.

I will continue to use Fuel Set.
 
Marsupial said:
So the stuff I ve been using for 29 years that I know definitely does work, and we get some really cloudy wet stuff out here they call fuel, - according to you doesn't work - sorry but I am unconvinced. I am sure your product works - but its not a good idea to rubbish other products that also work, you WILL loose credability.
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To be fair he didn't say other products didn't work, he did say his was better and would kill enzymes from other manufacturers. I suspect that after the Rocna debacle most manufacturers would avoid rubbishing the competition. Saying you believe you are the best though is not rubbishing the competition and is certainly not suggesting they do not work.
 
Sandyman said:
To my knowledge Gosport Premier Fueling jetty is the only fueling point this side of the water for pleasure users. Just wondering if they give this information out to visitors buying fuel. ?
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No (Assuming they have been using it since my last visit a couple of months ago). OTOH, they seem to be doing sterling job of avoiding "winter" boaters having to face this problem by closing the fuel berth at 14:45 (if you believe the website, although when they turned me away last weekend they said they had been closed since 15:30).
 
I am getting totally confused with all this. I also had the email from Premier and to confuse matters further the fuel at Chichester has Bio-fuel additives because it is deemed to be an inland waterway according to the powers that be. This being so I have re-fueled at Gosport because it does not have bio additives. I have also continued to use Fuel Set, as was the practice of the former owner who happened to work at the Fawley refinery in one of the research area's. Thought he would probably know what he was about much better than me!
Not sure what to do now, even the posts on here do not seeme to have a concensus view as yet.
 
I do wonder if there might be less to all this bio stuff than is put about. Across the Channel they have to use road fuel which presumably this year has the same level of bio content as UK road fuel. So what's happening over there? Are there thousands of boat-owners having problems with clogged filters?
I bought about 40L of fuel in Holland back in July, should I worry? I admit to have been adding Startron since the beginning of this year (first time ever in 15 years boat ownership that I have used an additive of any sort) only because of the hoo-hah.
 
I've had the current boat from new for 10 years, done 1000 hours and re fueled from wherever I was when I needed it. never used additives and never had the bug. How big a problem is it? p.s. I'm touching wood as I type....
 
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