Pregnant crew

I've never done it but I do know that if passages were rated on a Beaufort type scale it would probably rate as a 1, or 2 at most. Yes?

To be frank, the vast majority of people I know would simply not want to risk going on a boat at 8 months. A small risk maybe, but they would view it as not worth taking. More importantly, my sister-in-law had a very nasty misscarriage a few years ago. It devasted her and her other half. I would never want to be the cause of that. Old fashioned maybe, but there it is. If it makes me a gender facist, whatever that may be, then good! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
Who is being the twat? Ever hear the saying "the griddle calling......."

I understand enough about pregnancy to know I would not take any 8+ month pregnant person out on a little sail boat within VHF range or the CG or not.

Anyway you did not answer my question, What part of "IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GENDER BUT IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH THE PERSON'S PHYSICAL CONDITION" do you not understand?

I mean if you understand that then I cannot be a "gender facist" now can I? but as you still seem to have a "chip on your shoulder" about it I must assume there is something in the above you do not understand. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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Joe

I gave up trying to count my logs of the proposed passage, but estimate I've done it 90 odd times in each direction over the past 5 yrs.

I think this qualifies me to make up my own mind about who to take and in which circumstances. You've never done it, I wonder if Cliff has?

Cheers
Tom
 
Tom,

I don't think Cliff or I have even implied that you should not make up your own mind. We are simply saying what we would do. You are surely not saying we should do something, on a passage which is unfamiliar to us, simply on your say so?!

FWIW it's worth, I can think of many "passages" in my area which are easy, but my earlier comments would still apply.

Perhaps the original poster should be accused of being a gender facist for even asking the question initially! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

There's no more to be said on this, though it would be interesting to hear what the women on the forum think.
 
>>it would be interesting to hear what the women on the forum think. <<

I agree with the balanced views of some on here -

1) Pregnancy is not an illness
2) The woman in question will know how she feels
3) Many women carry on doing what they normally do right up until the final days of the pregnancy - QUITE SAFELY
4) If necessary she can be "rescued" by helicopter
5) If she's an intelligent woman she will understand and communicate the risks to all concerned on board with her
6) if in real doubt about all this, ask the pregnant mum and a senior midwife - every experience is different and a moral panic about this is probably inappropriate
7) Life goes on - it is too short to spend hours debating this subject and getting into other emotional tangles about power inequalities and the like

Crewgirl

mother of two and with limited medical knowledge obtained from raising two children and looking after her own health
 
Total agreement with Crewgirl - from another woman on the forum.

But if the skipper is not happy with the situation for whatever reason, then it's his right to say no.

By the way, did the original poster actually take her for the trip?


Ali
 
>>it would be interesting to hear what the women on the forum think

Funny, I thought I had made my views clear on an earlier posting.. just ignore me chaps!

Anyway, to re-iterate...
I have had 3 children, the last one at home. My labours were all safe, and lasted many hours, the 1st over 36hours.I was fitter than at any point in my life, I did all sorts of heavy physical activities, I travelled on a boat in the last months of pregnancy (ok, only the IOW ferry!) .I would agree with Crewgirls summary
) Pregnancy is not an illness
2) The woman in question will know how she feels
3) Many women carry on doing what they normally do right up until the final days of the pregnancy - QUITE SAFELY
4) If necessary she can be "rescued" by helicopter
5) If she's an intelligent woman she will understand and communicate the risks to all concerned on board with her

BUT with my skippers hat on- I probably wouldn't take her, or go myself.
I agree with AliM that it is the skippers right to say no if she/he is not happy for any reason. Just as it ultimately was not my call about whether I had my last child at home- at any point the doctors/midwives could have vetoed it.

I acknowledge the contribution from fathers about their SWMBOs going sailing late into pregnancy with no problems- but presumably both mother/father knew the capabilities of both mother and boat, and made the appropriate judgement call.

BTW I can't think of anything worse than going through any stage of labour while being winched aboard a helicopter.
 
Nobody has ever been walking down the dock and come to me and said,"Hey you with the boat! I'm coming sailing with you, make room!" Only people I have invited to come sailing are on the boat. The key being you're on the boat by invitation only.

That being said, the topic has sort of changed to the feeling that she wants to force her way on board to deliver the baby while under way in a gale with the boat taking on water and the decks being beat by helicopter rotorwash.

I think our original poster knows what his decision should be based on his judgement and is looking for a tactfull way to convey the message to her if his decision goes one way or to his crew if his decision ruffles feathers on the other side of the argument.
 
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