Pregnant crew

Oops, Sorry!!
And i just edited the post after re-reading the whole thread! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Origionally had, 'ins't a great female opinion', but then took out the 'great' after deciding LadyinBed and RacyLady, were both blokes!(I think)

I Read your post(and even replied to it!!, and took Ali to be short for Alistair, as i often call myself that too.

How wrong was i!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

From one Ali to another, Sorry.

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In the same position, I'd have been pretty irritated with all these well-meaning men telling me what was best for me.


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We are not tell the Preganant Crew whats best, we are merely advicing Roger whats his option are. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Unless of course you are the Pregnant crew in question?? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Cheers

Ali. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Hurrah!!!! A bit of common sense!!

I couldn't agree more!!!!!

(speaking as one whose wife is currently 42 weeks pregnant and has (voluntarily) given up boating for the time being - the harbour wall episode didn't go down too well with her)!
 
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In the same position, I'd have been pretty irritated with all these well-meaning men telling me what was best for me.

[/ QUOTE ]Not only what is best for you but for the other members of the crew. You in your incapacitated state would be a liability and could endanger the remaining crew members through your "I'm all right, hump everyone else" attitude. You would not be permitted to set foot on my boat after about 6 months or earlier if your mobility was in anyway impaired. Stop being so selfish for one minute and think of others.
Before any bleeding heart liberal accuses me of being selfish for not allowing a potential safety hazard aboard remember My boat = my responsibility = my call - not selfish - prudent more like.
FWIW I do sail frequently with one disabled crew and it does put a tremendous strain on everyone but in this case the disability is permanent not temporary as in being pregnant
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Don't worry, you don't come across as selfish, just as an over-fussy and insecure skipper from hell.

[/ QUOTE ]I am neither over fussy nor an "insecure skippper from hell" I just take my responsibilities towards ALL my crew seriously not just some mindless banged-up bimbo who insists she is OK and to hell with any danger she may place the rest of the crew in never mind the boat.
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Bloody women shouldn't be aboard a ship anyway! Brings bad luck, so it does!

(and turns the milk sour if they're menstruating)!
 
Of course its your decision who you take on your boat. If the lady in question is merely selfish, or incapacitated beyond what is reasonable (to you), or poses a risk to your crew, of course you have every right not to take her, whether she is pregnant or infirm in any other way.

It is going to depend on the lady in question. I would not have gone sailing at 8 months, nor would Powerskipper, nor would many of your wives. Some women are fit enough and would like to do so - good for them.

So, if she is fit enough and understands the dangers, and you can plan the route so that you are sufficiently near to harbour in case labour starts, then why not take her?

I think we are getting mixed up on the risks. Is it a) that the pregnant lady is herself incapacitated? b) that you are worried that she might go into labour? Or c) that delay getting her to hospital may endanger the baby (or her)?

If a), then you can treat her like any other disabled crew member and make the relevant judgement, taking account of boat, crew etc. If b) or c) then it is her (and possibly the baby's father's) call, once you are sure they appreciate the issues and risks. Overall, it's your decision.
 
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being pregnant isn't an illness. Provided she's had a straight forward pregnancy upto your departure all should be well.

Several friends of ours managed some pretty spectacular feats of energetic activity the week before the birth, largely because the useless lumps they were married to hadn't sorted out the kids room or built the wardrobes.

The onset of the delivery stage should be quite obvious and there should be time for you to get all skippery and save the day.

Should it all go awry delivering children isn't as difficult as it looks, in most cases. My old mum's delivered three and says it's common sense really. Most of the process is automatic. You'd be justified in getting a bit of outside help though.

I'd only be cagey if she'd had a bit of trouble up to departure, was very young or very old or had a another illness as well. That is provided she's happy with the trip and is not greatly inhibited in her mobility.

Oh! and can she get to and fit into the heads. Ladies in this situation often go rather a lot.
 
Re: mindless banged-up bimbo

My father actually, but I don't see what gender has to do with it. His condition will not improve so certain "adjustments" have had to be made to accommodate him. Pregnancy is a temporary condition and for the sake of missing a few days sailing I do not feel it worth the risk or effort to take such crew onboard. It as not so much their safety but the safety of other crew. Much has been said about "if she feels up to it she should go" but everyone seems to overlook the danger she could be putting other crew members in if things went wrong.

As for the RNLI or Coastguard - is it right that she should be able to call a SAR chopper or lifeboast because she goes into labour knowing damn well there is/was a good chance it could happen?
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Re: mindless banged-up bimbo

My opinion FWIW- (female with 3 kids,( last one an elective home birth) skipper of a boat)

I personally would have been able to do anything physical including pulling ropes, climbing on/off etc-as others have said many women find themselves moving furniture/climbing up ladders decorating/lugging huge bags of shopping etc in the last few weeks. In fact I experienced a burst of energy in those last 4 weeks, knocked down a garden wall with a lump hammer, was probably fitter than at many other times in my life- BUT with all of these activities you can stop if you need to, I might have found just sitting on a boat for any length of time very uncomfortable at least.

First time labours can be VERY long ( 24+ hrs in my case) so in theory there should be no problem- even with my 3rd I went into labour in Sainsburys, finished my shopping, carried shopping home on the pushchair, cooked dinner etc-BUT I know that even when just popping out of Brighton for a bit of fishing or whatever it can be an hour from when someone says 'let's go in' to the time you're actually tied up on the pontoon.

So in balance would I take her?

I hate to say this, but speaking with my skipper hat on I'd be inclined to say no. The feisty women's libber in me is horrified- but when you weigh up the possibilities of too much/too little wind, engine failure, well we all know what can go wrong sometimes- it just isn't worth it.
 
Just got back from two weeks afloat with an eight month pregnant and very large ('cos of the pregnancy) wife, Absolutely no worries at all. Easy peasy still worked on the ropes, helped to pull the boat through the locks at Fort Augustus and didn't even break into a sweat. She's PREGNANT not ILL. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif sorry for shouting but the hassle we go tfrom lock keepers and other folks - all with the best of intentions - hey ho - sorry rant over.
 
Re: mindless banged-up bimbo

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Personally, I never take smokers on my boat in case they have a heart attack!

[/ QUOTE ]Your choice but it does show how narrow minded and ill informed you are. I don't have a problem with smokers on board just not in the cabins - If they want a smoke then outside in the cockpit or on deck.
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Re: Allowing \"weight challenged\" people on-board

I guess you must spend some mighty lonely times on-board playing with yourself in that case.
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