Pre-Marina Days

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Just for historical reference and general interest I though it would be good to have a thread covering areas and estuaries before there were any Marinas etc.
So to kick things off (as they say!) ... here's one of Gosport:

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I'm not sure that counts as "pre-marina" - it's just a big marina with a very select clientele.
 
Do you know the year of the photo? My Great uncle served in submarines in WWI, which would seem to be around the time it was taken.

I'll ask the Lads. ....... just found out it's circa 1910 & the ship is HMS Mercury.

I'm not sure that counts as "pre-marina" - it's just a big marina with a very select clientele.

Of course it is ..... but fair comment! ..... just the angle is all wrong ..... & it's even showing a couple of Tall-Ship's & one looks like HMS Victory & it's still afloat! ..... I don't know what the one in the middle of the channel is ..... possibly HMS Warrior?
 
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I don't know what the one in the middle of the channel is ..... possibly HMS Warrior?

I was going to say it couldn't be her as she was probably a concreted-over oil jetty at this time - but actually, if it's WWI era then it very well could be her. Wikipedia says:

Warrior was then used as a storage hulk, and from 1902 to 1904, as a depot ship for a flotilla of destroyers. Her name was changed to HMS Vernon III in March 1904, a month after she joined Portsmouth-based Vernon, the Royal Navy's torpedo training school. Her role was supplying steam and electricity to the neighbouring hulks that made up Vernon. In October 1923, the school was transferred to a newly built shore installation, rendering Warrior and her companion hulks redundant; the Royal Navy put her up for sale in 1924.

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Never!

The subs are in numerical order! Navy have too much time on their hands...

They've just opened a new box of Boats .... & they're teaching the Dabbers/Scratchers to count ..... Naval Maths & English 'lurnin' by numbers .... ;)
 
Rhu Narrows Gair Loch Firth of Clyde 1931

The picture below is provided courtesy of "Britain From Above". The link to the source of the picture is http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/spw035643

This is the Rhu narrows and the Gair Loch on the Firth of Clyde in 1931. Today, Rhu Marina is located off the headland just to the left of Ardencaple Pier in the bottom right hand quadrant of the picture. What I find amazing is the number of ships waiting in the Gair Loch. The Gair Loch is just at the end of the River Clyde which was a massive centre of trade from around the empire. Today, it is fairly empty. This is my dinghy sailing patch from when I was a boy.

This picture was taken at high tide as the narrows were very narrow. If you look at the picture, follow the spit on the right hand side out to the left. About 1 cm from the headland on the left of the narrows there is a small structure just visible. The narrows are between that and the left hand head land. At low tide one could walk all the way out to the small beacon (which is the structure barely visible in the picture). The majority of the spit has now been removed and the seabed around the channel deepened for the Trident Submarines. In the days of Polaris ICBMs one could stand on the spit at low tide and see clearly the pale faces of the submariners on the deck. As the sub went by with attendant tugs and police escorts I would chase the wake on whatever I was sailing to surf; great fun.

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I can remember Lymington before David May ( Berthons) and then Peter Webster brought those funny bucket n chain dredger things in, the pontoons arrived, they wus rich...
Before that there was a lot of mud. Used to play ( naughty) in the big old Berthon boat sheds on the likes of Sceptic ex Am/cup.. The town quay had railways to run yachts down to the water.. That reminiscent enuff? ( I was verr verr young)..
 
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