Practical boat owner on iPhone

[VADROUILLE]

Does anyone know when zinio will pull there finger out there a**e and get one of my fav boating mags on the iPhone?

If yachting monthly,sailing today and motor boats can do it the I'm sure pbo can.

This magazine has been coming soon for months now according to website, whats more annoying is its avalible for iPad but not the iPhone!

Rant over

http://gb.zinio.com/browse/publications/index.jsp?productId=191863143
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[robertj]

Hi
I am on here with iPhone no problem.

Does anyone know when zinio will pull there finger out there a**e and get one of my fav boating mags on the iPhone?

If yachting monthly,sailing today and motor boats can do it the I'm sure pbo can.

This magazine has been coming soon for months now according to website, whats more annoying is its avalible for iPad but not the iPhone!

Rant over

http://gb.zinio.com/browse/publications/index.jsp?productId=191863143
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[FWB]

Classic Boat and Sailing today have iPhone and iPad apps so there is no need to use Zinio. Why haven't YM and PBO done the same?

 

[VADROUILLE]

Classic Boat and Sailing today have iPhone and iPad apps so there is no need to use Zinio. Why haven't YM and PBO done the same?

Probably because pbo know they can get more money out of me if i buy it from my local shop in gibraltar rather than them sort there app out and make my life not only easier and cheaper!

In reality they dont get my money, i refuse to pay the £6-7 price tag, especially because i know about 1/4 of the mag is adverts.

Yachting monthly on the other hand do have an app via Zinio, however im not a fan of them so dont subscribe.

I am subscribed to sailing today, and its actually ok. Its ideal for me, i sign up for the year and then download my mags when they are avalible. I cant lose the mags downloaded as its all done from the account i have with them. So not only do i get an ok deal (a very good deal compared to how much one mag in gibraltar costs) but i save on all the bulkiness and weight of paper magazines which i would eventually have to dispose of/pass on as our 38 footer just cant expand as quick as the magzine tower.

Come on PBO/Zinio, its now 2012 not 1912, sort your act out and get the digital versions avalible for the iphone.

 

[WilliamUK]

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At this point I'd like to point out to the powers that be at PBO that contrary to impressions probably given so far - there are considerably more people using non-iPhone smartphones (especially Android, which is currently the most popular smartphone platform) and as such you would do well to avoid the usual gaffe of releasing software for the 2nd largest platform and forgetting (or just not bothering with) the largest - Android.

Nothing against iPhone... nor the people clamouring for digital editions for it... just speaking up for the typically less-vocal Android users. If I'm honest I kinda prefer paper editions myself... but I do find it frustrating that almost everything is geared to iPhone when it really needn't be.

 

[hunter_europa]

I'd like to know how YM etc come up with their online magazine costs. They're only 10p cheaper than the printed version. Surely the saving made by not having to print should be passed onto the buyers of the online version of the magazine.

 

[VADROUILLE]

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At this point I'd like to point out to the powers that be at PBO that contrary to impressions probably given so far - there are considerably more people using non-iPhone smartphones (especially Android, which is currently the most popular smartphone platform) and as such you would do well to avoid the usual gaffe of releasing software for the 2nd largest platform and forgetting (or just not bothering with) the largest - Android.

Nothing against iPhone... nor the people clamouring for digital editions for it... just speaking up for the typically less-vocal Android users. If I'm honest I kinda prefer paper editions myself... but I do find it frustrating that almost everything is geared to iPhone when it really needn't be.

Will

If i was in your shoes i would feel the same. The point of my post is technology has moved one, people use all sorts of devices these days and they just keep getting more popular. What gets my goat is PBO is, and i quote from the link supplied in my first post "Practical Boat Owner is Britain's biggest-selling boating magazine"

Yet they seem to be the uks only boating mag which is not avalible on iphone and i assume android.

It would help if the they would just give me a date of release, not just "coming soon". At least with a release date i would have something to look forward to!

I completley understand about paper editions, i myself was once impressed with my PBO libary on the book shelf. But now i live aboard keeping this vast liabary is out of the question. And digital just makes so much sense.

 

[nigelmercier]

I'd like to know how YM etc come up with their online magazine costs. They're only 10p cheaper than the printed version. Surely the saving made by not having to print should be passed onto the buyers of the online version of the magazine.

I'd like to know why print subscribers can't download digital editions for a nominal fee. Many other mags I subscribe to charge about £5 for this.

 

[WilliamUK]

I'd like to know how YM etc come up with their online magazine costs. They're only 10p cheaper than the printed version. Surely the saving made by not having to print should be passed onto the buyers of the online version of the magazine.

If they are done properly and to be readable, there's a lot of cost involved in making digital editions as they need an entirely different layout to the print version. Other than the price of writing the article I believe there's a lot more expense than you might at first think. That's assuming it's not just something akin to a scanned copy you zoom in and out of and otherwise exactly the same - which is a bit rubbish, really.

So, some editing cost. Full layout cost. Lower circulation.
10p cheaper seems a bit steep to me, but I dunno how low I'd expect it to be priced.

 

[WilliamUK]

Will

If i was in your shoes i would feel the same. The point of my post is technology has moved one, people use all sorts of devices these days and they just keep getting more popular. What gets my goat is PBO is, and i quote from the link supplied in my first post "Practical Boat Owner is Britain's biggest-selling boating magazine"

Yet they seem to be the uks only boating mag which is not avalible on iphone and i assume android.

It would help if the they would just give me a date of release, not just "coming soon". At least with a release date i would have something to look forward to!

I completley understand about paper editions, i myself was once impressed with my PBO libary on the book shelf. But now i live aboard keeping this vast liabary is out of the question. And digital just makes so much sense.

Oh I completely understood where you were coming from. I didn't want you to think I was having a go - just pointing out something that companies almost universally seem to overlook the simple fact that for all its popularity, iOS isn't the most popular platform and that there's a huge market to be had with Android users.

As for paper - if I start getting a collection up (now I only tend to buy if there's something I particularly want to read) I'll more than likely cut out the relevant sections for filing away while getting rid of the rest. No resale value on the mags left behind this way, but it takes up a LOT less space than a giant stack of magazines do.

I used to do that with some other magazines I read a while back and it's often a much better way of keeping things you like.

 

[VADROUILLE]

Oh I completely understood where you were coming from. I didn't want you to think I was having a go - just pointing out something that companies almost universally seem to overlook the simple fact that for all its popularity, iOS isn't the most popular platform and that there's a huge market to be had with Android users.

As for paper - if I start getting a collection up (now I only tend to buy if there's something I particularly want to read) I'll more than likely cut out the relevant sections for filing away while getting rid of the rest. No resale value on the mags left behind this way, but it takes up a LOT less space than a giant stack of magazines do.

I used to do that with some other magazines I read a while back and it's often a much better way of keeping things you like.

No No, knew you was not having a go, android is very popular! Totally understand cut outs, i myself have 2 or 3 folders which hold cut outs from sailing mags!

Regarding the cost, i dont expect them to be cheap, im sure there is lots of work that goes into making a digital copy. From what i can gather the sailing today app is scanned, but it does work. Time to time you get the odd bug that means you have to deleate an issue and re-download it, but on the whole, for me, its good enough for me to subscribe. Like i said previousley, with sailing today you have an account, so if you lose your mags on the phone they are not lost forever. You just have to re-download.

Obviousley if you pay for the internet then dowloading scanned copys takes up data as i understand it. No problem if your internt is free but if not, could use up valuable data allowance.

Im not sure how other boaty mags do there digital issues but if its done like you say then less data is involved which is better for the person who has to pay for there internet!

 

[hunter_europa]

I got an email today asking if I'd like to buy a copy of, or subscribe to classic boat magazine. The price of the paper copy posted to my house is £4.50. The price of downloading a copy onto my iPad is £4.40. Now I understand that there are costs involved in producing a digital copy but only 10p of a difference seems a bit steep, especially since the 10p difference won't even cover the postage.

 

[FWB]

I got an email today asking if I'd like to buy a copy of, or subscribe to classic boat magazine. The price of the paper copy posted to my house is £4.50. The price of downloading a copy onto my iPad is £4.40. Now I understand that there are costs involved in producing a digital copy but only 10p of a difference seems a bit steep, especially since the 10p difference won't even cover the postage.

The iPad version is £3.99 for a single edition or £2.50 per edition for a years subscription.
What is more you can do a Smiths and look through all the pages...somewhat smaller in size...before you buy.

 

[WilliamUK]

From what i can gather the sailing today app is scanned, but it does work.

Really it's minimal work making a digital copy of the paper version when compared to making an actual digital edition with a different layout and format. I see little excuse for it being so expensive.

I got an email today asking if I'd like to buy a copy of, or subscribe to classic boat magazine. The price of the paper copy posted to my house is £4.50. The price of downloading a copy onto my iPad is £4.40. Now I understand that there are costs involved in producing a digital copy but only 10p of a difference seems a bit steep, especially since the 10p difference won't even cover the postage.

If the production costs of a digital edition are high enough, and the circulation small enough I can see how that might be the case. It seems to me that they'll struggle to get such a big readership for the digital when the content is identical and the format is perceived to be cheaper.