EddieA
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I never saw the word "autopilot" pray tell where that is?
Planning an epic voyage - well Solent to Poole....any advice???
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l'escargot
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I never saw the word "autopilot" pray tell where that is?
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Didn't see the word "keyboard" either until you used it.
I just used "autopilot" in a disparaging manner in response to your post - do keep up.
Oh, and the word "pray" in that context is somewhat outdated. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I never saw the word "autopilot" pray tell where that is?
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Didn't see the word "keyboard" either until you used it.
I just used "autopilot" in a disparaging manner in response to your post - do keep up.
Oh, and the word "pray" in that context is somewhat outdated. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
mm1
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don't even try this w/end poole bay will be horrible,s/east 24mph wind,nobody will enjoy it,stay in solent,regards m m 1.
Chris_d
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Have a look at a chart and an almanac - some of the "advice" on here is a bit ambiguous. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
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Without wishing to sound condescending I have to agree, there is some good advice on here with local knowledge, but if the original poster can't look at a chart and almanac and work out the easiest route themselves then perhaps they need a bit more training.
Cripes i sound like a Scuttlebutter /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Have a look at a chart and an almanac - some of the "advice" on here is a bit ambiguous. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
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Without wishing to sound condescending I have to agree, there is some good advice on here with local knowledge, but if the original poster can't look at a chart and almanac and work out the easiest route themselves then perhaps they need a bit more training.
Cripes i sound like a Scuttlebutter /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
pennycar9
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In my opinion and for what it is worth, I think the original poster is doing the correct thing in asking for advice, instead of blundering off and getting it all wrong.There has been some good advice posted here by people who know the area and while I do agree with valid criticsm, for example some wrong advice given, petty criticsm serves no purpose.
The poster is unsure, he has asked for advice, good on him.
And have a good trip!!!!
The poster is unsure, he has asked for advice, good on him.
And have a good trip!!!!
DAKA
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Agreed.
All the charts in the world will not warn of Pots off Christchurch ledge and suggest 1.5 nm off or even state there is a practical 10 knt speed limit 1/2 nm from the chain ferry.
Good post with some excellent contributions /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
All the charts in the world will not warn of Pots off Christchurch ledge and suggest 1.5 nm off or even state there is a practical 10 knt speed limit 1/2 nm from the chain ferry.
Good post with some excellent contributions /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
EddieA
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I find your attitude rather petty, Jez gave some superb advice but made a typo. As I said before, we all knew what he meant.
DAKA
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Well said.
It wasn't even a dangerous faux par , if anyone had taken any notice they would have spent the day at Anchor in Alum bay, think it wasn't as far to Poole as they thought and saved a load of fuel /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
It wasn't even a dangerous faux par , if anyone had taken any notice they would have spent the day at Anchor in Alum bay, think it wasn't as far to Poole as they thought and saved a load of fuel /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Argonautical
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Great advice as others have said, Jez, will you be my navigator in future!!!???
I have done this trip twice, and being a newcomer myself I can say its a fantastic journey. Last summer we did it with DJFabs, and The Rat, and I basically followed Huston all the way. There were indeed pots every where as we cleared Hurst and headed out to sea.
Dolphin Quay is a lovely marina, noisy in the evening but very nice.
We also did the trip in the dark a couple of months ago, with the aid of some 'Old Sea Dogs' with the charts etc, didnt see any pots at all................. Do it in the dark as ignorance seemed to be bliss!!!
As the othere say, make sure the conditions are good, and remember about punching tide etc when doing your fuel calcs.......that was quite surprising.
I dont know how big your boat is, but my first time was in a Targa 37, and the last a Targa 48, both trips were plesent, with a bit of wet stuff over the screen in the dark!
Enjoy, and be safe!
Jas.
I have done this trip twice, and being a newcomer myself I can say its a fantastic journey. Last summer we did it with DJFabs, and The Rat, and I basically followed Huston all the way. There were indeed pots every where as we cleared Hurst and headed out to sea.
Dolphin Quay is a lovely marina, noisy in the evening but very nice.
We also did the trip in the dark a couple of months ago, with the aid of some 'Old Sea Dogs' with the charts etc, didnt see any pots at all................. Do it in the dark as ignorance seemed to be bliss!!!
As the othere say, make sure the conditions are good, and remember about punching tide etc when doing your fuel calcs.......that was quite surprising.
I dont know how big your boat is, but my first time was in a Targa 37, and the last a Targa 48, both trips were plesent, with a bit of wet stuff over the screen in the dark!
Enjoy, and be safe!
Jas.
CMJ
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Yep - really great advice - thanks to you all for helping here, and BTW, the typo Jez made was not significant as even an ‘numb-nut’ like me would have realised that generally I want to head west from the Solent to get to Poole! I’m very grateful for all of your guidance, in particular Jez who must have spent much time documenting this. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
I was only ever hoping to use this advice to ACCOMPANY my electronic and paper charts, not to substitute them and therefore stand-by my request and as pointed out, no charts (that I know of) detail things like gaggles of lobster pots or previous and actual experiences etc!
Thanks all!
Chris.
I was only ever hoping to use this advice to ACCOMPANY my electronic and paper charts, not to substitute them and therefore stand-by my request and as pointed out, no charts (that I know of) detail things like gaggles of lobster pots or previous and actual experiences etc!
Thanks all!
Chris.
gjgm
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I'd add ..
Poole harbour can be pretty confusing if you havent got a mental picture of its layout.. you seem to be forever going round, and even the markers arent always so obvious if you arent familiar with them. Its quite easy to miss the entrance into the town, for one thing !
Oh, and if the channels in the harbour arent obvious (guess there are less moored boats this time of year), you might prefer to just hold off to one side if there is a huge cross channel ferry, and let him do his thing !
But if you can cope with the obstacles in the Solent, I m sure getting to Poole wont be a challenge!
Poole harbour can be pretty confusing if you havent got a mental picture of its layout.. you seem to be forever going round, and even the markers arent always so obvious if you arent familiar with them. Its quite easy to miss the entrance into the town, for one thing !
Oh, and if the channels in the harbour arent obvious (guess there are less moored boats this time of year), you might prefer to just hold off to one side if there is a huge cross channel ferry, and let him do his thing !
But if you can cope with the obstacles in the Solent, I m sure getting to Poole wont be a challenge!
l'escargot
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If you think typing east instead of west, a 180 degree course error, when giving someone else advice "petty" I would question your judgement in defending it - some people might not know even if all those you speak on behalf of do.
This however wasn't the only bit of advice I was refering to as ambiguous, read some of the other posts. I deliberately didn't mention specific posts to save embarassment and people taking things personally.
I think getting the poster to look at a chart and an almanac to confirm some of what is on here is probably the most undisputable advice he has received.
This however wasn't the only bit of advice I was refering to as ambiguous, read some of the other posts. I deliberately didn't mention specific posts to save embarassment and people taking things personally.
I think getting the poster to look at a chart and an almanac to confirm some of what is on here is probably the most undisputable advice he has received.
l'escargot
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Fair point Pete. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
SilverTT
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Unfortunately E is next to W on the keyboard. We all know what Jez meant!
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A big assumption on behalf of someone who seeks navigation guidance from an internet forum.
"Oh yes, I ran my boat up on the beach on autopilot because I typed in E instead of W because they are next to each other on the keyboard..."
Sounds good.
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He isn't asking for 'seeks navigation guidance'
The guy is only asking for advice. Jez as normal has gone that extra mile. He's given excellent advice. I'm quite sure when it comes to doing the route cmj will check bearings east and west etc.
Just one question is the boat really a az 50. If so it should take a bit of chop.
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Unfortunately E is next to W on the keyboard. We all know what Jez meant!
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A big assumption on behalf of someone who seeks navigation guidance from an internet forum.
"Oh yes, I ran my boat up on the beach on autopilot because I typed in E instead of W because they are next to each other on the keyboard..."
Sounds good.
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He isn't asking for 'seeks navigation guidance'
The guy is only asking for advice. Jez as normal has gone that extra mile. He's given excellent advice. I'm quite sure when it comes to doing the route cmj will check bearings east and west etc.
Just one question is the boat really a az 50. If so it should take a bit of chop.
BarryH
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I've sailed this trip in a Mirror dinghy, no great shakes as long as common sense prevails.
CMJ
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Just one question is the boat really a az 50. If so it should take a bit of chop.
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‘tis and it does take chop really well – I couldn’t ask for more. For me, I actually love big seas and crave for more experiences like the one at the Needles a couple of years back when I was having lessons.. Great fun….probably wouldn’t say that after a real scary experience though! ……but SWMBO likes it chilled and even the sight of a biggish wave could ruin the weekend…well not quite – bit of an exaggeration but with the new baby on board I just need to ease her into the family boating thing gently I reckon.
Weather’s looking disappointing at the moment for the weekend, so might have to take all of this great advice and use it for another time (obviously together with all my charts etc!!) !
Just one question is the boat really a az 50. If so it should take a bit of chop.
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‘tis and it does take chop really well – I couldn’t ask for more. For me, I actually love big seas and crave for more experiences like the one at the Needles a couple of years back when I was having lessons.. Great fun….probably wouldn’t say that after a real scary experience though! ……but SWMBO likes it chilled and even the sight of a biggish wave could ruin the weekend…well not quite – bit of an exaggeration but with the new baby on board I just need to ease her into the family boating thing gently I reckon.
Weather’s looking disappointing at the moment for the weekend, so might have to take all of this great advice and use it for another time (obviously together with all my charts etc!!) !
benjenbav
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I was thinking of trying it on a tea tray. I'm a bit worried about leeway through Hurst Narrows because it doesn't have a daggerboard - unlike your Mirror. On the plus side I'm not too worried about snagging any pots. I'll probably wait for a bit of wind though, F7 or upwards really gets my little vessel humming.
l'escargot
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Unfortunately E is next to W on the keyboard. We all know what Jez meant!
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A big assumption on behalf of someone who seeks navigation guidance from an internet forum.
"Oh yes, I ran my boat up on the beach on autopilot because I typed in E instead of W because they are next to each other on the keyboard..."
Sounds good.
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He isn't asking for 'seeks navigation guidance'
The guy is only asking for advice. Jez as normal has gone that extra mile. He's given excellent advice. I'm quite sure when it comes to doing the route cmj will check bearings east and west etc.
Just one question is the boat really a az 50. If so it should take a bit of chop.
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I am quite fascinated that so may Mobo regulars will go to great lengths to big up a post with a 180 degree navigation error, dismissing it as a "typo" or a "faux pas" and of no real consequence as "everybody knew what he meant".
I shall read other posts giving such advice with much interest - and ponder the intended destination as opposed to the actual destination of the Mobos in and out of Hurst in the summer. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Unfortunately E is next to W on the keyboard. We all know what Jez meant!
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A big assumption on behalf of someone who seeks navigation guidance from an internet forum.
"Oh yes, I ran my boat up on the beach on autopilot because I typed in E instead of W because they are next to each other on the keyboard..."
Sounds good.
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He isn't asking for 'seeks navigation guidance'
The guy is only asking for advice. Jez as normal has gone that extra mile. He's given excellent advice. I'm quite sure when it comes to doing the route cmj will check bearings east and west etc.
Just one question is the boat really a az 50. If so it should take a bit of chop.
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I am quite fascinated that so may Mobo regulars will go to great lengths to big up a post with a 180 degree navigation error, dismissing it as a "typo" or a "faux pas" and of no real consequence as "everybody knew what he meant".
I shall read other posts giving such advice with much interest - and ponder the intended destination as opposed to the actual destination of the Mobos in and out of Hurst in the summer. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Hurricane
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am quite fascinated that so may Mobo regulars will go to great lengths to big up a post with a 180 degree navigation error, dismissing it as a "typo" or a "faux pas" and of no real consequence as "everybody knew what he meant".
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You mean come down Southampton Water and turn right or left.
Come on - I think even I could get that right.
A bit like when I was organising a Round the Isle of Wight race and people asked what the course was. As long as you start in the correct direction you just keep it to port all the way - I said - oh yes - I also had to remind them that it was only one lap!!
am quite fascinated that so may Mobo regulars will go to great lengths to big up a post with a 180 degree navigation error, dismissing it as a "typo" or a "faux pas" and of no real consequence as "everybody knew what he meant".
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You mean come down Southampton Water and turn right or left.
Come on - I think even I could get that right.
A bit like when I was organising a Round the Isle of Wight race and people asked what the course was. As long as you start in the correct direction you just keep it to port all the way - I said - oh yes - I also had to remind them that it was only one lap!!
Whitelighter
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I do hope you meant WEST when you are quoting bearings to EAST - otherwise he will never get to POOLE as it is WEST from the Solent!
There is also merit in going closer inshore across Bournemouth/Poole Bay and using the East Looe channel to enter the harbour.
Pretty sure you will not be allowed to moor on the Town Quay itself but in the Haven. The Quay is reserved for bigger boats and as overflow from the Haven in the summer. Both are controlled by the Harbour Commisioners.
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Toss.
Yes. Bloody idiot.
I do hope you meant WEST when you are quoting bearings to EAST - otherwise he will never get to POOLE as it is WEST from the Solent!
There is also merit in going closer inshore across Bournemouth/Poole Bay and using the East Looe channel to enter the harbour.
Pretty sure you will not be allowed to moor on the Town Quay itself but in the Haven. The Quay is reserved for bigger boats and as overflow from the Haven in the summer. Both are controlled by the Harbour Commisioners.
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Toss.
Yes. Bloody idiot.