Pipe cots question

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Hi,

I came across this picture of well thought out pipe cots somewhere on the web (? I've forgotton where ?) and I just wondered how practical they are in, well, practice ? :p If the boat tacks while someone is sleeping in one do they just fall to the floor, or is there enough sag in the fabric to permit that without issue ? There seems to be no obvious way to fit a lee cloth, unless anyone knows better ?

Thanks,

Boo2

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We have a pipe cot on our Vancouver 27. I personally haven't slept in it but it's been used on occasions by crew (we only have 3 berths). The consensus is that getting in and out is a real pain but once in, it's very comfortable and secure and there's no feelings of anxiety about getting tipped out or need for gripping on with your teeth. It's a good sea berth but as I say, hard to get in and out of. You wouldn't want to allocate it to someone with a weak bladder who would be constantly clambering in and out to relieve themselves!

Cheers, Brian.
 
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Many Rivals are fitted with these. I have used this berth quite a lot and it is very good when at sea and in port. The Rival ones were fitted with lee cloths but had the double pole supports to adjust the depth. A comfy sleep indeed.

The secret to getting in is to bend the upper body over the berth and take most of the weight on your chest, then swing a leg up and slide in as horizontal as possible, keeping face down.
 
pipe-cots are great

I'm pretty sure the photo is a Rival, the 36 probably. I have spent nights at sea in them on a Rival 34 and 36 and had them specified and fitted to my boat as well. I hate lee cloths which I find neither comfortable nor secure.

An added bonus of pipe-cots is that children - at least mine anyway - love them and always bicker over who gets to sleep in the berths which have them, even using them when in harbour!

I usually advise family crews to make _pasage_ over night (the children sleep peacefully most of the way, and so are not bored, and may other reasons I wont repeat here), so secure sea births are a must for the sort of sailing we do. It is something I care about.

In normal seas and when heeled over nobody has fallen out yet, but of course a knock-down would be different.
 
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I thought it might be a Rival but the windows are wrong and the bulked to the right is not the famous keyhole shape; so I am not so sure it is. If she is she must be one of the last ones made which perhaps had changes. Very similar joinery though.
 
They ar also very useful for stowing bags etc on short passages.

Our children preferred the pipe cots to the berth below. They were very snug.

Lee cloths can be fitted quite easily. Extra base material and eyes fitted to the cabin ceiling or near the lights on the bulkhead.
 
The one in your picture has two positions for the pole - one for a wider, flatter berth in harbour, and one for a saggier, higher-sided cradle at sea.

I don't remember sleeping in one on a yacht, but all the Voyage Crew berths on Stavros and William are this type. It's telling that in rough weather deckhands and other Volunteer Crew berthing in normal bunks up forward tend to sneak into spare pipe cots in the Voyage Crew cabins where they can get a better night's sleep without being flung about.

Pete
 
Bowman?

BlowingOldBoots said:
I thought it might be a Rival but the windows are wrong and the bulked to the right is not the famous keyhole shape; so I am not so sure it is. If she is she must be one of the last ones made which perhaps had changes. Very similar joinery though.
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I think you're right. From the same stable, how about a Bowman 40? The drawers under the navigator's table are just as the Bowman has. Windows still seem a bit too square 'tho.
 
My Hallberg-Rassy 31 has solid, padded seat backs that hinge up to maximise the sleeping space. One has had a pipe cot bar, like those in the picture above, and forms quite a comfortable extra bunk for racing crew. However, it definitely needs the lee cloth, which stows under/behind the backrest when not in use. The additional height of most pipe cots means that you would tend to be thrown right across the boat when caught by an awkward sea.
 
jdc said:
I think you're right. From the same stable, how about a Bowman 40? The drawers under the navigator's table are just as the Bowman has. Windows still seem a bit too square 'tho.
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Another vote for the Bowman 40. A friend has one and that picture could almost have been taken on his.

Third page of the brochure here.
 
Giblets said:
Another vote for the Bowman 40. A friend has one and that picture could almost have been taken on his.

Third page of the brochure here.
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Yes, you are right. With the help here I found it again, take a bow "Pelican" Bowman 40 currently on yachtworld. I was browsing for ideas for refurbishing the pilot berths on Sunrunner and save the pic without naming it.

Looking at other pix it seems all B40 yachts had the same set up, very useful...

Boo2
 
Boo2 said:
Yes, you are right. With the help here I found it again, take a bow "Pelican" Bowman 40 currently on yachtworld. I was browsing for ideas for refurbishing the pilot berths on Sunrunner and save the pic without naming it.

Looking at other pix it seems all B40 yachts had the same set up, very useful...

Boo2
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And Rustlers as well.

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Boo2 said:
Yes, you are right. With the help here I found it again, take a bow "Pelican" Bowman 40 currently on yachtworld. I was browsing for ideas for refurbishing the pilot berths on Sunrunner and save the pic without naming it.

Looking at other pix it seems all B40 yachts had the same set up, very useful...

Boo2
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And very comfortable too! :)
 
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