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Pilot 17 Dory Windshield

Hi all .... im new here so please be kind .... :)

I have recently purchased a Pilot 17 Dory dated around 1980 i would guess ..

Can spares still be had for these dory's ? What im after initially is a new curved windshield. The one on it is curved perspex mounted in a badly pitted steel frame and bolted to the cabin roof. If i cant get an exact replacement will other makes of windshields possibly fit and if so where could i sourse one in the UK ?

thanks
keith
 
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this was our 590, with the "flying" bridge add on, not too good a picture but should give you an idea, some came with nothing to "duck" behind, and believe me you need something, almost as wet as jumping in when in a chop, but never frightened us.

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Hi keith,

Could you post some pics to show us the state of your windscreen?

What engine have you got on it?

Although dories can be uncomfortable in rough or confused seas, I've never felt even slightly scared in the 13ft Dell Quay I would normally go out on. I have got very wet due to the slamming action throwing up sheets of spray though!
 
Volusian said:
Hi all .... im new here so please be kind .... :)

I have recently purchased a Pilot 17 Dory dated around 1980 i would guess ..

Can spares still be had for these dory's ? What im after initially is a new curved windshield. The one on it is curved perspex mounted in a badly pitted steel frame and bolted to the cabin roof. If i cant get an exact replacement will other makes of windshields possibly fit and if so where could i sourse one in the UK ?

thanks
keith
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I had a couple of these boats. OEM spares definitely not available now. A boatyard could make you one, or a specialist like www.sunlightplastics.co.uk. Possibly quite expensive. If you're ok at DIY then buy some perspex, cut it, heat form it with hot air gun, and attach to cabin roof with say an alloy extrusion or similar from say www.wilks.co.uk. You can use the old windscreen as a template
 
omega2 said:
this was our 590, with the "flying" bridge add on, not too good a picture but should give you an idea, some came with nothing to "duck" behind, and believe me you need something, almost as wet as jumping in when in a chop, but never frightened us.

i like the GRP molded windshield on yours ... did you have this made or was it home grown ?

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the engine i have on it is a mide 90's mariner 60 ..

Also went into local chandlers today tp price some 1" diameter steel grab rails and a 4ft basic rail straight rail was £80 !

got to be cheaper elsewhere ... :confused:
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spynappels said:
Hi keith,

Could you post some pics to show us the state of your windscreen?

What engine have you got on it?

Although dories can be uncomfortable in rough or confused seas, I've never felt even slightly scared in the 13ft Dell Quay I would normally go out on. I have got very wet due to the slamming action throwing up sheets of spray though!
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ill sort some pics out tomorrow hopefully ... the engine is a mariner 60 .. boat is a Pilot 17 - very early 80's i believe
 
Volusian said:
omega2 said:
this was our 590, with the "flying" bridge add on, not too good a picture but should give you an idea, some came with nothing to "duck" behind, and believe me you need something, almost as wet as jumping in when in a chop, but never frightened us.

i like the GRP molded windshield on yours ... did you have this made or was it home grown ?

walthamangler-1.jpg


the engine i have on it is a mide 90's mariner 60 ..

Also went into local chandlers today tp price some 1" diameter steel grab rails and a 4ft basic rail straight rail was £80 !

got to be cheaper elsewhere ... :confused:
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no it was a builders option ours was moulded at Heybridge in Essex, 1980's
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spynappels said:
Hi keith,

Could you post some pics to show us the state of your windscreen?
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I can post a pic of the state of mine:-

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If only I'd known that the exit gate on my local slipway is 3" lower than the entrance...

I have been to see a local supplier of plastics to the building trade who knew someone who could form a new acrylic one (c £250), but in the end we settled on the idea of a sheet of polycarbonate which can be (cold) shaped to the curve and worked with domestic saws and drills.

I'll try and remember to post on how I get on - went to collect it today but gave up when I discovered that the M25 had been redirected down my lane because of a gas leak of all things!
 
thanks for all who helped advise ... this is the Screen i wish to repair / replace ...

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Would you think the existing screen could be removed easily from this type of mount without too much damage to the screen frame .. ?

thanks
 
Volusian said:
Would you think the existing screen could be removed easily from this type of mount without too much damage to the screen frame .. ?

thanks
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Cant tell from that picture. If the edgings are ok and can be reused, just get a bit of perspex (zillions of local stockists), cut the shape using old one as template, and job's done. You can google for tips on cutting perspex - it's a bit of an art. slow jigsaw, fine blade, dont let it melt. You can cold bend the perspex sheet to form those corners or heat with hot air gun, which is better

If the edgings need replacing buy new ones from the likes of www.wilks.co.uk, www.sealsdirect.co.uk or just google car resotrer parts suppliers etc.
 
thanks for that ...... another point is the front bow window. Its currently held in place by some homemade wooden frame which is screwed in place ... its rather tatty i must admit. I was thinking of removing this frame / window and re-seating a new piece of poly in rubber to match the sides. It this wise and would rubber give the window sufficient strength against wind and wave or should i bolt back in place in a new frame ..

thanks
 
Volusian said:
thanks for that ...... another point is the front bow window. Its currently held in place by some homemade wooden frame which is screwed in place ... its rather tatty i must admit. I was thinking of removing this frame / window and re-seating a new piece of poly in rubber to match the sides. It this wise and would rubber give the window sufficient strength against wind and wave or should i bolt back in place in a new frame ..

thanks
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When built they will have used rubber section that is "clamped" by the insertion of a second extruded section. Loads on the wilks website. This was a widely used method, in cars too before bonded windscreens took over, and should be ok. It could be pushed in by a big wave but you wouldn't want to be out in those sorts of seas. I'm not aware of this being an even slightly common occurence. I mean, it would be a perfectly good way to fit the window and would withstnad wind and normal waves. It is/was a very common technique. It does produce quite a nice neat original look for your boat. The wooden set up there now sounds a bit of a bodge! Mind you, if you remove the wood, I bet you have lots of screw holes to deal with, then you gotta colour match your blue, erk. Or paint the whole thing...
 
Got the cabin windshield off today .... its rather tatty .. :(

Getting some polycarbonate cut soon but not too sure about the alloy frame .. looks a bit worse for wear !

Anyone got any ideas on possible replacement .. should i reuse the existing frame or could / should i replace it .. if so what would be a good replacement idea ?

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any help appreciated .. :)
 
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