Phrases or sentences I dislike hearing

Macd
"it's the exception that proves the rule" [an absurd contradiction, in the sense in which 'prove' is commonly used];

I'm sure that you know that that proving the rule originally meant testing the rule. Hence testing the rule lead to proving that it was not always true!
 
Macd
"it's the exception that proves the rule" [an absurd contradiction, in the sense in which 'prove' is commonly used];

I'm sure that you know that that proving the rule originally meant testing the rule. Hence testing the rule lead to proving that it was not always true!

Quite so, and that usage of 'to prove' is still very much in use, as in proving ground, proof spirit, proof of the pudding, etc.

That makes the hackneyed old saying at least logical, although its origin is evidently older and more arcane, thanks to our learned friends. The 'exception' in question was in an offer of contract, as in 'admission free except on weekends'. The rule in that example would be that admission is not free on weekdays. Perhaps not very useful in everyday conversation.
 
b
Macd
"it's the exception that proves the rule" [an absurd contradiction, in the sense in which 'prove' is commonly used];

I'm sure that you know that that proving the rule originally meant testing the rule. Hence testing the rule lead to proving that it was not always true!

Actually, the original quotation comes from the Roman jurist, Cicero. The sense was that a rule saying that something IS permitted implies the existence of a rule saying that everything else is NOT permitted
 
Actually, the original quotation comes from the Roman jurist, Cicero. The sense was that a rule saying that something IS permitted implies the existence of a rule saying that everything else is NOT permitted

Another learned friend, albeit a rather old one. So British law's take on ''admission free except on weekends' is owed to Cicero. And here's me thinking it had more to do with Nero... ;)
 
Another learned friend, albeit a rather old one. So British law's take on ''admission free except on weekends' is owed to Cicero. And here's me thinking it had more to do with Nero... ;)

Is there such a thing as "British Law"? I know there's English law, and Scots Law.
 
"the only way to do it is......."

Perhaps I should now apologise to all the young Enginerrs that I shouted at when they quoted this. And be pleased that they learned that it is NEVER the only way to do it when I gave a silly but always practical alternaive.
 
Top