Photography at sea.

I am considering your detailed response Solitaire and will reply in due course.

In the meantime I thank you for your interest in my image and welcome your comments.
 
People do have quite strong opinions about image manipulation particularly the levels and contrast
It's been going on since photography began.
Ansel Adams. A great of early photography. Do you suppose this shot really looked like this?
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I don't think I would start to muck about with someone else's image, although I am sure it was well intentioned.
I understood that images were being posted for congratulations and/or critique. I someone doesn't see some other interpretations they won't know if their own choice is still as valid.
That's how you learn.
Activesail has seen some alternatives and still has reasons to prefer his own. That's healthy discussion.
I was a professional photographer for 25 years. I don't object to people mucking about with my images. That was the reason I was producing them.
 
In view of all the diversity of opinions on photography on boats I decided not to take my camera out today and took instead my pastels and a sheet of paper.

I came across a forumite and dashed off a quick sketch.

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"Ok, so I have removed the cropping - I agree that is a matter of choice." (Quote)

Thank you for removing the cropping, the photograph is at least beginning to represent my intentions.

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"I agree, but your picture does not. It is flat and almost monotone. There is no depth or subtly. In my version you can see where the sun is coming from, it has depth by increasing the contrast and you can see the difference between the sea and the sky. Also you can now see differences in the background as the coastline recedes. Again on your's the background just goes away." (Quote)

My version, is the scene which I wished to depict. you are indeed entitled to make any comments you wish, without necessarily interfering with someone else's image.

There was a heat haze, on the day, making the scene looked washed out and the colours taking on a pastel quality and I liked that. My choice, what you have done is altered my image to one you prefer, fair enough but not right.



"I agree, but if you are going to post pictures that are flat and lifeless then expect some comment.

"The adaptation of the FastCat done by Lakesailor does in no way detract from the fact you wanted to capture - the spay from the bow - IMHO it enhances it as there is depth behind the spray created by returning the vessel to it's original colour and giving it contrast." (Quote)

Unless you have travelled to the Gibraltar Straits I can't see how you can possibly have any idea as to the fastCat's true colour. One can clearly see that the altered image has completely changed the whole colour of the image, causing the sea to appear grey. So how can the FastCat's colour now be correct?" (Quote"

The whole purpose was to produce a soft image which conveyed the conditions on the day. Maintaining the true life colours as they where in that quality of light.

"As again Lakesailor pointed out, your camera will adjust the picture digitally anyway depending on the cameras setting - white balance, exposure area etc. I don't know what type of camera you are using, but have you tried shooting in RAW?" (Quote)





"Indeed, but I want to see a crisp well defined image with a level of contrast that says I'd like to have been there - not a flat rather boring picture with no depth or contrast or for that matter colour. " (Quote)


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"Sorry if that sounds harsh, but being a "keen" photographer does not always suffice, play with the camera's white balance and exposure settings, also remember that our brains are complex things that adjust automatically, even the best cameras can't do that to the same degree. Look at the scene you want to capture and think how it will come out. I like natural soft light but that is normally best early morning or evening - you can always predict where you are going to be when the view occurs. Does your camera have a spot meter option? If so, have a play with that and see what a difference it makes.

I use a Nikon D300s and a Pentax Optio compact which is also waterproof. I shoot in "fine" unless I want to do something very specific when I will shoot in RAW, but that is not often. I also have a 345 roll film camera, but don't use that much these days." (Quote)

I agree with all of the above, indeed I use a Nikon D70, which has a raw facility and I am well aware of all the combinations of settings one can control manually. This enables me to control the image's colour temperature and level of exposure to produce the image I want.

The end result is then transferred to my computer and slightly altered by photoshop software to my taste.

"This shot was taken using the compact and it is how it was!" (Quote)

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Thank you for this very pleasing photograph, which I have no temptation to alter because of my respect for others Copyright.;)
 
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It's been going on since photography began.
Ansel Adams. A great of early photography. Do you suppose this shot really looked like this?
0228_the-tetons-snake-river-ansel-adams.jpg

I understood that images were being posted for congratulations and/or critique. I someone doesn't see some other interpretations they won't know if their own choice is still as valid.
That's how you learn.
Activesail has seen some alternatives and still has reasons to prefer his own. That's healthy discussion.
I was a professional photographer for 25 years. I don't object to people mucking about with my images. That was the reason I was producing them.

The whole point of this thread was to encourage people to show the rest of us photographs they had taken at sea.

I normally invite critique of my photographs through a photographers web site.

Never the less I thank you for your comments and agree they have led to a healthy discussion.

Can I also take this opportunity to congratulate you on posting a marvellous painting.
 
Ok, so I have removed the cropping - I agree that is a matter of choice...

I agree, but your picture does not. It is flat and almost monotone. There is no depth or subtly. In my version you can see where the sun is coming from, it has depth by increasing the contrast and you can see the difference between the sea and the sky. Also you can now see differences in the background as the coastline recedes. Again on your's the background just goes away.



I agree, but if you are going to post pictures that are flat and lifeless then expect some comment.

The adaptation of the FastCat done by Lakesailor does in no way detract from the fact you wanted to capture - the spay from the bow - IMHO it enhances it as there is depth behind the spray created by returning the vessel to it's original colour and giving it contrast.

As again Lakesailor pointed out, your camera will adjust the picture digitally anyway depending on the cameras setting - white balance, exposure area etc. I don't know what type of camera you are using, but have you tried shooting in RAW?





Indeed, but I want to see a crisp well defined image with a level of contrast that says I'd like to have been there - not a flat rather boring picture with no depth or contrast or for that matter colour.

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Sorry if that sounds harsh, but being a "keen" photographer does not always suffice, play with the camera's white balance and exposure settings, also remember that our brains are complex things that adjust automatically, even the best cameras can't do that to the same degree. Look at the scene you want to capture and think how it will come out. I like natural soft light but that is normally best early morning or evening - you can always predict where you are going to be when the view occurs. Does your camera have a spot meter option? If so, have a play with that and see what a difference it makes.

I use a Nikon D300s and a Pentax Optio compact which is also waterproof. I shoot in "fine" unless I want to do something very specific when I will shoot in RAW, but that is not often. I also have a 345 roll film camera, but don't use that much these days.

This shot was taken using the compact and it is how it was!
Well now we need to scan in a few Turners and a Renoir or two and see if we can't sharpen them up.

For what it's worth, I think that his original conveys very well the mood of the scene which would have been flattened and muted by the mist.

The shot was taken as a personal record and if he wanted to inject his impression (I use the word pointedly!) of the scene for his own purposes and to show others then I think he has done it.

I may be wrong, but assuming that was his intention and his impression then he has, to my eye, captured the flatness of perspective and water and, if I stretch my imagination just a little, the surrounding soundscape as well...

On the day!

Your (impolite - its like daubing on someones painting!) versions could be any old day - a documentary shot - but his is one specific day.

Kodachrome has been dead for years - RIP!
 
I normally invite critique of my photographs through a photographers web site.

Can I also take this opportunity to congratulate you on posting a marvellous painting.

I have been a member of PhotoSig on and off for years. Now they can hand out criticism.

The painting is a fraud.
I really did do it yesterday, but it was a quick piccy that I've played with in Photoshop. Ooops. Sorry. :D

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Well now we need to scan in a few Turners and a Renoir or two and see if we can't sharpen them up.

For what it's worth, I think that his original conveys very well the mood of the scene which would have been flattened and muted by the mist.

The shot was taken as a personal record and if he wanted to inject his impression (I use the word pointedly!) of the scene for his own purposes and to show others then I think he has done it.

I may be wrong, but assuming that was his intention and his impression then he has, to my eye, captured the flatness of perspective and water and, if I stretch my imagination just a little, the surrounding soundscape as well...

On the day!

Your (impolite - its like daubing on someones painting!) versions could be any old day - a documentary shot - but his is one specific day.

Kodachrome has been dead for years - RIP!

I couldn't have articulated the point better..
 
Surely a photo is there to show or to promote emotions? Or memories?

This photo was literally snatched on the tender back to a hire yacht in the Dominican Republic. A simple compact digital camera but for many reasons it is one of my favourite photos?

No Photoshop trickery at all!

(Any idea where it is folks? Is a very well known place!)
 
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Taken this morning going down.... Well you'll be able to read the blog ( http://yachtpixie.blogspot.com) later to see where it was.

Oh and before anyone decides to critique it, it was taken on my iPhone, no adjustments what so ever.

I have a version on my camera which is the one I'll keep and get printed if the desire takes me. This one will stay on my phone to bore anyone who'll hang around long enough :)
 
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A contribution from some of our members.

If anybody wants some pictures at their own event drop me a PM.

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