Person (not yard) to remove teak decks in Plymouth (or anywhere within reason)

[jerrytug]

Saltram 40,Person to remove teak decks in Plymouth (or anywhere within reason)

Hello, I want to find a person to remove screwed-in teak decks, yacht is in Plymouth.

I have just about found a yacht I want to buy, but need to factor in the price of ripping up the teak decks, filling hundreds of screw holes and making good, with some bits of treadmaster or some similar sane deck covering.

The teak is worn down below the sika, some screw heads exposed etc, and is ruining the otherwise gorgeous yacht.
It is not economic to do at yard rates.

However if I can find an independent contractor, self employed with low overheads, it would be viable.

There is one guy ITA I've heard of who did Ayesha's, which apparently worked out well, anyone know his number?

If anyone has any recommendations I would be grateful. Obviously I could move the yacht anywhere, but the guy would need to come and have a look in Plymouth to discuss the job.

Post or PM.
Many thanks Jerry

 

[alant]

Hello, I want to find a person to remove screwed-in teak decks, yacht is in Plymouth.

I have just about found a yacht I want to buy, but need to factor in the price of ripping up the teak decks, filling hundreds of screw holes and making good, with some bits of treadmaster or some similar sane deck covering.

The teak is worn down below the sika, some screw heads exposed etc, and is ruining the otherwise gorgeous yacht.
It is not economic to do at yard rates.

However if I can find an independent contractor, self employed with low overheads, it would be viable.

There is one guy ITA I've heard of who did Ayesha's, which apparently worked out well, anyone know his number?

If anyone has any recommendations I would be grateful. Obviously I could move the yacht anywhere, but the guy would need to come and have a look in Plymouth to discuss the job.

Post or PM.
Many thanks Jerry

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[martinaskey]

Have you considered restoring it ?
Depends on how thick the teak is, current condition (leaks, pattern of wear etc.)
As you say, at yard rates a deck replacement is expensive.
I restored my teak deck (which was in a similar condition to that you describe) and it is great.
Hard work but not expensive.
And despite all the negative comments people make about teak decks, they're not too difficult to maintain and would make your gorgeous boat even more beautiful.
But then again I suffer from the madness of a mahogany hull too, so I might be biased.

Just a thought

 

[jerrytug]

Thank you Martin, it's not for me. If it was glued on I wouldn't bat an eyelid, but about 1000 screws into a sandwich deck? Insanity!

 

[mtb]

getting those screws out may end up ripping out larger holes unless the person doing it has a decent electrical screw driver with bits that fit perfectly in the screw heads. I say decent electrical screw driver because their about the only thing you can put all your wieght on, a yanky screwdriver wont work because the big push you need to get the screw started with out it chewing up is to high
you'll need some one with ability not a bod

 

[pvb]

getting those screws out may end up ripping out larger holes unless the person doing it has a decent electrical screw driver with bits that fit perfectly in the screw heads. I say decent electrical screw driver because their about the only thing you can put all your wieght on, a yanky screwdriver wont work because the big push you need to get the screw started with out it chewing up is to high
you'll need some one with ability not a bod

I replaced a lot of screws and teak plugs on my old HR, using new low-profile screws from HR Parts. The old screws all came out very easily.

 

[clyst]

Thank you Martin, it's not for me. If it was glued on I wouldn't bat an eyelid, but about 1000 screws into a sandwich deck? Insanity!

Jerry if you have screws into a sandwich deck don't let your heart rule your head on this one ,as beautiful as she may appear you could be heading for mega hassle and expense especially if it's a balsa corand not foam . Sorry to be negative.

 

[pvb]

Jerry if you have screws into a sandwich deck don't let your heart rule your head on this one ,as beautiful as she may appear you could be heading for mega hassle and expense especially if it's a balsa corand not foam . Sorry to be negative.

Only if the screws have been leaking into a balsa core. The boat must be 20+ years old, so any deck deterioration ought to be obvious.

 

[jerrytug]

getting those screws out may end up ripping out larger holes unless the person doing it has a decent electrical screw driver with bits that fit perfectly in the screw heads. I say decent electrical screw driver because their about the only thing you can put all your wieght on, a yanky screwdriver wont work because the big push you need to get the screw started with out it chewing up is to high
you'll need some one with ability not a bod

Yes indeed, I have heard there are some non-yard operators who have done it before, which is what I'm after really..

 

[jerrytug]

I replaced a lot of screws and teak plugs on my old HR, using new low-profile screws from HR Parts. The old screws all came out very easily.

That's very interesting thanks. Not a Halberg but a Saltram.

 

[jerrytug]

Jerry if you have screws into a sandwich deck don't let your heart rule your head on this one ,as beautiful as she may appear you could be heading for mega hassle and expense especially if it's a balsa corand not foam . Sorry to be negative.

Totally agree, eyes wide open, ready to walk away, plenty more fish in the sea! HOWEVER... if I could work out the cost of losing the teak and making good, without paying yard rates, it's probly a goer for me. It's about the only job that does need doing luckily.
edited to add, famous last words..

 

[jerrytug]

Only if the screws have been leaking into a balsa core. The boat must be 20+ years old, so any deck deterioration ought to be obvious.

Yes and if I get my offer accepted, part of the 'subject to survey' clause will specifically have 'damp, squidgy, rotting, delaminating etc deck core' written in to the contract and I have agreed with the broker that this clause will be acceptable, and if such damage is found there will be a substantial price reduction, or I will walk away with my deposit.
She's a 1987 Saltram. Thanks for yr advice btw.

 

[pvb]

Yes and if I get my offer accepted, part of the 'subject to survey' clause will specifically have 'damp, squidgy, rotting, delaminating etc deck core' written in to the contract and I have agreed with the broker that this clause will be acceptable, and if such damage is found there will be a substantial price reduction, or I will walk away with my deposit.
She's a 1987 Saltram. Thanks for yr advice btw.

Is it the blue one on the Barbican website? Looks very tidy. Is the deck laid on fibreglass, though, or on ply? If on ply I'd be very cautious.

 

[jerrytug]

Is it the blue one on the Barbican website? Looks very tidy. Is the deck laid on fibreglass, though, or on ply? If on ply I'd be very cautious.

Yes that one, it's teak over fibreglass over ply. I am being incredibly cautious! Totally ready to walk away, not fixated in any way. Also putting in a low offer, and specifically including, in writing, any squashy deck issues in the 'subject to survey' clause, and also trying to get a rough idea of non-yard costs to rip up the teak and fill the holes..hence this thread!


Thanks for yr advice Jerry

 

[sailorsteve]

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[pvb]

Yes that one, it's teak over fibreglass over ply.

Does that mean the same as "epoxy-coated marine ply"? That's how most of these boats are described.

 

[jerrytug]

As far as I know it's got actual layers of glass fibres over the plywood, I have looked at a couple of other Saltrams in the last few weeks and that appears to be the case, but if anyone thinks different I would be glad to hear.
I've put Saltram 40 in the thread title now, in case it attracts the beady eyes of any proud owners!

 

[pvb]

So the screws are actually in the marine ply, and may well have been leaking if the caulking's gone and the screwheads are visible.

 

[jerrytug]

Yes exactly, you have spelled out my concerns! A cretinous thing to do to a fine yacht which otherwise ticks all my boxes.

 

[Tranona]

scottytradewind did a similar job on his Tradewind 33 a couple of years ago, although that is a cored glass deck. He then levelled off the substrate and epoxied it.

Taking the old teak off is not a complicated - just messy and time consuming. You need to find out a bit more about how it is bedded onto the glass as if epoxy was used it will be far more difficult to remove than if it were laid on Sika, but it may even be dry, relying just on the screws to hold it down. Biggest danger is that water has got past the glass and into the ply, but difficult to know until you get the teak off.

You will probably find you have to effectively re-sheath the deck to make good all the holes and can then paint or perhaps use Kiwigrip. Treadmaster is surprisingly expensive and labour intensive to fit well.