Perkins M50 / VP MD22L-A heat exchanger end cover - part number?

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I need an end cover (the 54mm version) for the heat exchanger on my engine. I have just been quoted over £100 for the VP part which seems rather a lot for a couple of quids worth of rubber. So, since the engine is essentially a Perkins Prima M50, I would like to get a quote for the Perkins version (of the same part). However, I need a part number which, in turn, requires the relevant engine number which I don't have (because it is VP badged). Can anyone out there assist?
 
homer said:
I need an end cover (the 54mm version) for the heat exchanger on my engine. I have just been quoted over £100 for the VP part which seems rather a lot for a couple of quids worth of rubber. So, since the engine is essentially a Perkins Prima M50, I would like to get a quote for the Perkins version (of the same part). However, I need a part number which, in turn, requires the relevant engine number which I don't have (because it is VP badged). Can anyone out there assist?
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The heat exchanger is most likely to be Bowman

Look here

http://www.ejbowman.co.uk/products/MarineHeatExchangers.htm
 
homer said:
I need an end cover (the 54mm version) for the heat exchanger on my engine. I have just been quoted over £100 for the VP part which seems rather a lot for a couple of quids worth of rubber. So, since the engine is essentially a Perkins Prima M50, I would like to get a quote for the Perkins version (of the same part). However, I need a part number which, in turn, requires the relevant engine number which I don't have (because it is VP badged). Can anyone out there assist?
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How about £35 for a pair from Parts for engines

EDIT

No they are the 68mm version!
 
I had good service from Transatlantic Diesel, an American Company, http://www.tadiesels.com for some parts for my Perkins. For example, they were very helpful and found slim line engine mounts which were difficult to find. Good prices but you need to pay duty before the parts are released.

If all else fails, try them, good pictures of parts laid out ready for assembly, so makes looking and comparing easy, Manifold and Heat Exchanger Section http://www.tadiesels.com/heat-exchangers-manifolds.html#B
 
Yes, got quite excited about the parts4engines price - but wrong size. Bowman site is very interesting but I can't find the right model. I'll try Lancing. Thanks all round.
 
homer said:
Yes, got quite excited about the parts4engines price - but wrong size. Bowman site is very interesting but I can't find the right model. I'll try Lancing. Thanks all round.
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Think you will find it is a Volvo unique part and not the same as the Perkins version. Won't be a Bowman unit.

Suggest Keypart who are usually cheaper than Volvo dealers.
 
nigelmercier said:
As I suggested above, why would there be a Perkins version?
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Because the MD22L-A was also available from Perkins Marine as M50/M60/M80-Turbo. These use a different heat exchanger/exhaust assembly from your (and mine MD22L-B). Compare below (Volvo pictures from old and new version of Volvo instruction manual, Perkins picture from a rare scan of a Perkins Marine manual). I'm fairly sure the marinized version of the A revision was in fact designed by Perkins (or whoever put the salty bits on for them, that's where my history gets a bit fuzzy - possibly Sabre, which Perkins ended up swallowing).

Unfortunately the Perkins manual has no part numbers either :nonchalance:

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Yngmar said:
Because the MD22L-A was also available from Perkins Marine as M50/M60/M80-Turbo. These use a different heat exchanger/exhaust assembly from your (and mine MD22L-B). Compare below (Volvo pictures from old and new version of Volvo instruction manual, Perkins picture from a rare scan of a Perkins Marine manual). I'm fairly sure the marinized version of the A revision was in fact designed by Perkins (or whoever put the salty bits on for them, that's where my history gets a bit fuzzy - possibly Sabre, which Perkins ended up swallowing).
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You may well be right that early MD22s were Perkins marinised as the Perkins versions predated Volvo's involvement. All this was long before any connection with Sabre who never got involved with the BL Perkins diesel.
 
nigelmercier said:
Why would a tractor have a heat exchanger?
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Because the Prima 50 engine was fitted painted blue to Beneteau 390s and the ilk before they started painting them green and calling them VPs! They eventually changed the heat exchanger to the more familiar square alloy one! Would have thought a smart ars e Vaseline man who knows it all would have known the basic facts about MD22s!
Stu
Oops beaten to it by other knowledgable chaps!
 
Tranona said:
You may well be right that early MD22s were Perkins marinised as the Perkins versions predated Volvo's involvement. All this was long before any connection with Sabre who never got involved with the BL Perkins diesel.
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Those who subscribe to PBO will have seen the article I did showing the history and origins of the MD22 and how to refurb it. It was developed by Perkins and BL for the Maestro / Montego. The basic block, head pistons etc are identical to ours. Then Perkins marinised it as a blue copy of the MD22 with the round rubber capped end heat exchanger and I actually saw one in a Bene 390 I was thinking of purchasing. Then VP got involved and comntinued to supply the round rubber capped end HE type as pictured above and then fitted the more familiar alloy heat exchanger that is fitted to mine. The turbo ones have slightly different pistons with skirt oil cooling jets fitted and the inj pump modified.
Stu
Stu
 
skipper_stu said:
Because the Prima 50 engine was fitted painted blue to Beneteau 390s and the ilk before they started painting them green and calling them VPs! They eventually changed the heat exchanger to the more familiar square alloy one! Would have thought a smart ars e Vaseline man who knows it all would have known the basic facts about MD22s!
Stu
Oops beaten to it by other knowledgable chaps!
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:-)
 
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