Perfect onboard MoBo Mini-bike: BSA Bantam 175cc 2str?

Rusty ferget a Bantam it will just go rusty!
Won't work on a boat/salty environment
Forget all this is 'easy to fix' like a seagull outboard stuff!
Check out, I dhunno Google it!
Sachs 125 (and 50) Madass!
They are like a BMX bike with an engine, dead light and pokey, the 125 goes well even with two peeps on
Can't do a Link cos I,m a Dinasour!
'Dinasor, Dinasoor' Dinasuor?
Shiot yer know what I mean!
Check em out they are just the Job
 
AndieMac said:
Ah! The old 'water-bottle'. A couple of my mates (one has two of them) own and ride these bikes regularly. We do try to keep in front of them though because of the oily smoke ;) which is not that easy, they still move well!
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Great bikes
We sold a couple 'in the day' as they say!
Daft bikes but soo much fun
'Dragged' a Standard one at the Ramsey sprint (TT Week) once
Just got the front wheel down at the end of the 'Standing Quarter':D

Next year went with a CBX 1000!
No
I CHICKENED OUT!
:eek:
 
Kawasaki said:
Great bikes
We sold a couple 'in the day' as they say!
Daft bikes but soo much fun
'Dragged' a Standard one at the Ramsey sprint (TT Week) once
Just got the front wheel down at the end of the 'Standing Quarter':D

Next year went with a CBX 1000!
No
I CHICKENED OUT!
:eek:
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I've not ridden a water-bottle, but they say you need the revs (like all two strokes) up to make them honk.

Around 1980 a couples of local 'fast boys' bought the big six Honda's, which used to spend a fair bit of time with their front wheel well in the air :)
 
....Wow, never seen one before!!
Looks like a Honda engine, and a variation on the monkey bike.:eek:
Review here: http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/2010-sachs-madass-review-88985.html

MCN weren't that impressed:
MCN overall verdict
Funky half-BMX, half-moped looks good and promises much as a cool urban tool for 16/17-year-olds. Shame it’s let down by disappointly feeble performance, iffy Chinese build quality and plasticine componentry.
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......but it does only weigh 86kg, do 56mph, and only cost £1k new.......gets my vote. Has to better than a 50 years old 2 str. British bike. :rolleyes:


Edit: Uk price £2k..........worth a laugh comparing what the Uk dealer says about the bike: http://www.motorbike-warehouse.co.uk/productdetails.php?pid=1214

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Kawasaki said:
Rusty ferget a Bantam it will just go rusty!
Won't work on a boat/salty environment
Forget all this is 'easy to fix' like a seagull outboard stuff!
Check out, I dhunno Google it!
Sachs 125 (and 50) Madass!
They are like a BMX bike with an engine, dead light and pokey, the 125 goes well even with two peeps on
Can't do a Link cos I,m a Dinasour!
'Dinasor, Dinasoor' Dinasuor?
Shiot yer know what I mean!
Check em out they are just the Job
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doug748 said:
95/105kg - Just about the same as a D14 Bantam then
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Just changed my mind :http://www.wheels.ca/reviews/this-ae˜motorcycle-needs-a-lot-of-work/

Performance (or lack thereof) is about what you'd expect from a 120cc, four-stroke single with eight horsepower: the Madass accelerates with all the urgency of the last dollop of toothpaste leaving the tube. Even when pinning the throttle at a red light, you're in imminent danger of getting run over by Rascal scooters when the local senior's centre breaks for lunch.


The Madass is really only suitable for around-town use, such as commuting or going to school, as there's no way it'll maintain 80 km/h on two-laners. Into a moderate headwind, the bike would barely sustain 60 km/h, and I was embarrassed to be holding up traffic in a 70 km/h zone.
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Viva la Bsa Bantam......the British motorcycle lives on..and on.....:)
The early 60's is the nicest styling..........

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Who would believe this is a BSA Bantam?

Plan: buy early plunger frame version, and fit the later 175cc engine......:)

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If you get one off of e bay with the 'tune up kit' installed
Circa 800 to a Grand
Two paxs and a load of shoppin and you will wheeli no sweat
Me an swmbo did on Rhodes
I gave mine to a Mate who lives there for his Son
Wished I'd a kept the little fecker
Went down the Taverna one night
Had three or four Mythos and a couple of ouzos
Then perfomed douhgnuts in front of the local cop shop with the Constabule looking on and applauding!
Git a 'Ticket' the next day!



'Would you do that Kwacker next week, we have a Carnival, yammas!!!
:D
 
rustybarge said:
Who would believe this is a BSA Bantam?

Plan: buy early plunger frame version, and fit the later 175cc engine......:)

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Oh you beggars getting me going with motorbikes
First motorbike in 1961 was a 'D1', with a 'Fishtail' Just like That' as a Famous Comedian would have said
Then a 125 'Barnett'
Then a 175 Bantam with a 'George Todd' head
Sumatt like 9-1 compression I think and 'clip ons'
Was I The Leader of The Pack'
:D
 
Kawasaki said:
If you get one off of e bay with the 'tune up kit' installed
Circa 800 to a Grand
Two paxs and a load of shoppin and you will wheeli no sweat
Me an swmbo did on Rhodes
I gave mine to a Mate who lives there for his Son
Wished I'd a kept the little fecker
Went down the Taverna one night
Had three or four Mythos and a couple of ouzos
Then perfomed douhgnuts in front of the local cop shop with the Constabule looking on and applauding!
Git a 'Ticket' the next day!



'Would you do that Kwacker next week, we have a Carnival, yammas!!!
:D
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Are you talking about a tune up kit for the BSA, or the Sachs 125 Madass?

What was the rear suspension like on the D1 fishtail plunger frame? Was it comfortable to use on 'B' roads or a bone-shaker?
What was realistic cruise on the 175cc?
 
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Firefly625 said:
Or go for a Honda monkeybike... Many have been re engined with bigger cc's.

Something like this:

http://bit.ly/1a2Bkxt
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It's really light at 65-70 kg......but only manages 42mph. The St90 version gets up to just less than 50 mph, not sure if it's heavier?

.....in my experience to keep up with traffic about town and on country roads 55 mph is about he minimum acceptable speed, otherwise a long line of traffic will pile up behind you; then they'll try to overtake on short straights and run you off the road.

Been there done that, on my sons Yamaha 50cc Nero scooter. Embarrassingly slow even around town. If fact dangerously slow.
 
rustybarge said:
Are you talking about a tune up kit for the BSA, or the Sachs 125 Madass?

What was the rear suspension like on the D1 fishtail plunger frame? Was it comfortable to use on 'B' roads or a bone-shaker?
What was realistic cruise on the 175cc?
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The Sachs tuning kit
D1 was ok with a sprung saddle!
Realistic cruise with the 175 (back in the day) was 45
 
Kawasaki said:
The Sachs tuning kit
D1 was ok with a sprung saddle!
Realistic cruise with the 175 (back in the day) was 45
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You've ridden both the BSA and the Sachs, which has the fastest cruise?

Is the Sachs a reliable bike, given that it's made in China?

Here's the short list:

I'd forgotten how small the monkey bike is. It will need a big engine transplant to 140cc to do 50mph.
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The Sachs is made in China, terrible review, but is 125cc, overbore possible.

The Bsa Bantam is an old british 2stroke motorbike, how reliable is a 50 year old design.

Any other idea's?
 
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rb_stretch said:
I reckon quite the opposite, especially if you wear old helmet/goggles to go with it.
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I'm a fan of the Motorbike show on ITV4 ( ?), love the retro programming.
Just look at the price of Classic and vintage bikes!

' Modern bikes all look the same' :p
 
Melleman said:
at 116 kg/107 kg dry.
this is a fast scooter

gilera runner 180cc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_TTMURhD_E
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Thanks very much for that info...wow...wow....wow.... 85 mph!!! The Galera 180cc has 21 hp, Twice the hp of the BSA Bantam 175cc, and only 15 kg heavier. I'm going to find out more, and go for a test drive.

As I headed on to the A2 itself I did feel a twinge of trepidation. After all, it had been easy to keep pace with inner city traffic but how would the FXR180 fare on the three-lane highway that greeted us, with it's 70mph speed limit which is often exceeded at that time of day when the traffic is light? I need not have worried myself unduly. The machine quickly made 70mph to keep pace with the traffic. As lane three picked up some more I was able to maintain the progress to around 85mph at which point I could feel the Runner getting breathless. Dropping back into lane two and 70mph was a sensible idea; at that speed the scooter held it's own with the other traffic, having some little margin (up to 85mph) for the occasional overake. I have to add that at one time I did get the machine to a princely 90mph (indicated) for a few moments although at these speeds it is not very comfortable. The seating position is such that I had to pull myself forward into the wind blast with my arms, there was no leverage available from my legs due to the absence of a fuel tank between them. It was soon very tiring and bringing the speed back down to 60-70mph was a great relief.
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Looks like a truly amazing scooter, and you can carry much more on a scooter to boot.

I'm converted!:)

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