Pbo project boat

[lustyd]

Ive been following the project boat series with interest over the last few months but it's occurred to me that the budget must now be running into the thousands with all the tools they've been using.
I think they mentioned that the final cost will be printed in the mag but I'm curious whether the tools will be taken into account. On my boat every job seems to need another tool that I don't have, most recently a tap and die set but previously rivet gun, scrapers, sanders, drills etc and I'm pretty sure I have the value of the boat in tools now at least!

 

[parbuckle]

There comes a point in your boating life when one has acquired a huge amount of tools and equipment the cost of which you dont want to remember and the problem becomes finding what you want amongst huge boxes of tools and piles of half empty packets and plastic cartons of mixed nuts and washers etc.
But I do remember the day when on walking around a chandlers I decided I dont need anything , its all downhill after that .

 

[CoVianna]

As if!

But I do remember the day when on walking around a chandlers I decided I dont need anything

I AM so looking forward to that day!!!!

 

[prv]

But I do remember the day when on walking around a chandlers I decided I dont need anything , its all downhill after that .

I think I'm just starting to have reached that point, except for consumables like varnish.

Of course, if I end up with a new boat in a year or two, it'll all start again

Pete

 

[ferrymaniom]

I think I'm well on my way with respect to the tools, but it will be a long, long time before I can walk through a chandler's and decide there's nothing in there that I want.

 

[prv]

I think I'm well on my way with respect to the tools, but it will be a long, long time before I can walk through a chandler's and decide there's nothing in there that I want.

In my case it's partly down to very limited space for more "useful" kit on board Also a limited interest in marine electronics, so I don't even walk down that aisle. I am sometimes successfully tempted by the charts and books upstairs though...

Pete

 

[lustyd]

In my case it's partly down to very limited space for more "useful" kit on board Also a limited interest in marine electronics, so I don't even walk down that aisle. I am sometimes successfully tempted by the charts and books upstairs though...

Pete

Same here, the chart/book room at mss smells like heaven to me although their range of books is starting to be a limiting factor

 

[rob2]

After several months of "articles" which basically say "We scraped more sh*t off", I'm guessing they've already spent three times its value on tools storage, outside help - oh, wait - they did that when they bought it!

I think the project is a good one to provide controlled access to repair work, but there really hasn't been anything worthy of an article come out of it yet. Had they waited until there was enough to say, it would pay off - like a kid, I'm bored now. "Are we there yet?"

Rob.

 

[dylanwinter]

Great project

After several months of "articles" which basically say "We scraped more sh*t off", I'm guessing they've already spent three times its value on tools storage, outside help - oh, wait - they did that when they bought it!

I think the project is a good one to provide controlled access to repair work, but there really hasn't been anything worthy of an article come out of it yet. Had they waited until there was enough to say, it would pay off - like a kid, I'm bored now. "Are we there yet?"

Rob.

I went and had a lok at the boat with Ben Meakins.

I think it is a great idea for a project

as for ring fencing the costs of a restoration project

I think that is really hard to do. Should I price in the depreciation on the old small power drill I use on the rotary wire brush or sanding disk? What about the jigsaw blades, the white spirit, their labour, depreciation and petrol on the car for getting to the boat

I think the hacks have finished scouring and scraping and are about to start putting things back.



mind you, they stripped back a lot further than I would have gone - mind you, I would not have touched the boat with a metaphorical barge pole

 

[rob2]

... mind you, I would not have touched the boat with a metaphorical barge pole

Exactly, I would have wanted the previous owner to pay me to take it away! After all it would have cost a considerable amount to legally dispose of it. The situation is compounded for me by the fact that Snappies are such sluggish sailors and in this size range offer only pup tent facilities.

It just irritates me that there are monthly reports, which are, so far, uninteresting and would not really be of any help to anyone doing a similar job. By doing the restoration in the background, a reallly fine set of articles could be produced once the job was finished. Trying to get a return on their investment at this stage just means that readers are also bored with progress so far and can't see any point to the project. It'll still sail like a bathtub when its finished.

Rob.

 

[Fire99]

I might be a trifle biased since I own a Snapdragon 23, but Dylan, I think you're going a bit soft. Noisy road? Not exactly issue of the century.. Other than that, yes the boat has been stripped back, but the hull and topsides are all completely sound. The gelcoat issues are cosmetic and the rest is little more than a bolt back together job.

Time consuming yes, but not much that needs lots of planning and forethought..

 

[dylanwinter]

soft

I might be a trifle biased since I own a Snapdragon 23, but Dylan, I think you're going a bit soft. Noisy road? Not exactly issue of the century.. Other than that, yes the boat has been stripped back, but the hull and topsides are all completely sound. The gelcoat issues are cosmetic and the rest is little more than a bolt back together job.

Time consuming yes, but not much that needs lots of planning and forethought..

going soft..... of course - now I have a modernish poshish boat

aesthetically the snapdragon it is fine - or will be

but....

a drop keel on a boat that does not take the ground seems to me to be the worst of all possible worlds

and my days with messing with jiggered old inboards are done

I love the heads though - really does have room to stretch your legs

Dylan

slug for sale

 

[Fire99]

going soft..... of course - now I have a modernish poshish boat

aesthetically the snapdragon it is fine - or will be

but....

a drop keel on a boat that does not take the ground seems to me to be the worst of all possible worlds

and my days with messing with jiggered old inboards are done

I love the heads though - really does have room to stretch your legs

Dylan

slug for sale

Asking a silly question, why can't it take to ground? Is it due to the stub keel that the drop keel extends from, would leave it at a funny angle? (Mine is a triple keel version so this doesn't apply to me)

The heads is a weird set-up. Mine is the same, though a normal height person can sit on the heads with the hatch closed.. Just

It is a slightly odd use of space. A virtually redundant 'corridor' to reverse your backside down. I did consider a major interior re-design but to be honest, I couldn't work out how.

Inboard has two virtues. It's about as complicated as a lump of lead and it's off the engine to work on

 

[prv]

Dylan

slug for sale

For some reason this cast into my mind an image of Dylan in a white coat selling slugs from a tray round his neck, calling out his wares much like the "Fish Man" who comes through the pubs down the East side of Southampton

Pete

 

[Terra-Loon]

For some reason this cast into my mind an image of Dylan in a white coat selling slugs from a tray round his neck, calling out his wares much like the "Fish Man" who comes through the pubs down the East side of Southampton

Pete

"Ocelots noses"

 

[doug748]

I went and had a lok at the boat with Ben Meakins.

I think it is a great idea for a project..........................

Of course it is a good idea, it came from a lively post on our very own Scuttlebut back in 2009.

I pitched the idea to Sarah Norbury and got the knock back, her secretary, Roz Jones, said there was no budget for buying boats for would be writers; she has a fair point.

I was gracious in defeat:

"Dear Roz,
Thanks for the prompt response. I am relieved you have no funds for boat buying as I was having second thoughts about the venture. I was starting to glumly see coming out of the whole thing well out of pocket.
It could be a great project to give to a young member of the editorial staff.
I felt a very useful GRP boat could be got for, say, £800 fettled up for a thousand and equipped for cruising for the £1500. Of course getting the right boat might mean a dodgy, or expensive delivery trip, cranage, storage and the rest; hence my second thoughts.
Given the right boat and the attached wow factor (it that is not going too far) the piece could interest both the raddled old sailor, and inspire younger readers.
On the whole, being turned down by two ladies in one day could feel worse."

 

[prv]

"Ocelots noses"

Not quite, but he does have cockles and whelks and crab sticks and god knows what else, and comes as a bit of a surprise in a noisy Saturday night pub (including the studenty "YPVs") if you've not seen him before.

Pete