snowleopard
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see <A target="_blank" HREF=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/3726946.stm>here</A>
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pay your light dues - quickly!
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bigmart
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Why?
Martin
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boatmike
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Shutting door after horse has bolted I'm afraid. Our few pennies won't keep the lights burning anyway. Just hope they leave the bouys there after they turn off the lights.....
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StugeronSteve
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Be fun when Uncle Sam pulls the plug on his satellites (in the interests of national security of course), or we get a cascade from a space debris collision.
<hr width=100% size=1>Think I'll draw some little rabbits on my head, from a distance they might be mistaken for hairs.
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BrendanS
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Why? We'll be able to use Galileo
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StugeronSteve
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It'll be fun retuning to Galileo on a foggy day though won't it. Although, I thought they reckon a cascade will just about b****r everything up there. Or is that just media hype?
<hr width=100% size=1>Think I'll draw some little rabbits on my head, from a distance they might be mistaken for hairs.
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BrendanS
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Galileo is the proposed European gps system.
Cascade could cause huge problems, but the predictions are that it will be mid century before there is enough junk up there to make it a likely prediction, though it is increasingly likely that major damage could be done to a signifiant number of satellites if there was one large hit
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Cascade could cause huge problems, but the predictions are that it will be mid century before there is enough junk up there to make it a likely prediction, though it is increasingly likely that major damage could be done to a signifiant number of satellites if there was one large hit
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FullCircle
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Ssshhh!!!! Don't tell everyone, but I 've just bought some old masts with thingy aerials on the top, the bloke says they were called Decca.
Anyhows, I am going to arrange these in pretty triangular patterns all up and down the coast and that.
But here's the clever bit. When those Government buggers turn off the lights, and the Yanks take there satellites away, I am going out in a cheap boat and hit something 'orrid. Then I am going to sue them for all they have, and then - turn on my new system called Re-Decca as the only economic alternative. Galileo will still be buried under 50 foot of paper and gravy in Brussels. I will be so popoular having saved Britains face and shipping to boot, the people will sweep me to power and I can set about redistributing the coffers to the masses (less my expenses and a small operating charge, and a bit of commission too)at No 11 Downing St.
I am selling shares in this wizard wheeze. Form an orderly queue in the corridor.
As an added training safety feature, I am going to switch off one signal at a time just so as you know what to expect when it gets foggy.
Anyone got access to a container load of Decca Navigator sets?
Jim
soon to be rich beyond the wildest dreams of avarice
<hr width=100% size=1>Our engine will never wear out - it only runs for 5 mins before packing it in again.
Anyhows, I am going to arrange these in pretty triangular patterns all up and down the coast and that.
But here's the clever bit. When those Government buggers turn off the lights, and the Yanks take there satellites away, I am going out in a cheap boat and hit something 'orrid. Then I am going to sue them for all they have, and then - turn on my new system called Re-Decca as the only economic alternative. Galileo will still be buried under 50 foot of paper and gravy in Brussels. I will be so popoular having saved Britains face and shipping to boot, the people will sweep me to power and I can set about redistributing the coffers to the masses (less my expenses and a small operating charge, and a bit of commission too)at No 11 Downing St.
I am selling shares in this wizard wheeze. Form an orderly queue in the corridor.
As an added training safety feature, I am going to switch off one signal at a time just so as you know what to expect when it gets foggy.
Anyone got access to a container load of Decca Navigator sets?
Jim
soon to be rich beyond the wildest dreams of avarice
<hr width=100% size=1>Our engine will never wear out - it only runs for 5 mins before packing it in again.
pragmatist
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Decca did have it's benefits. The only time our Sadler 29 did 44 knots was when we were using Decca.
<hr width=100% size=1>a pragmatist is an optimist with a boat in the UK - but serious about not being in the UK !
<hr width=100% size=1>a pragmatist is an optimist with a boat in the UK - but serious about not being in the UK !
Althorne
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Don't need to. With no lights to follow all the illegals won't be able to find their way here in their stolen little boats so the gov' will save enough to keep the boayage system going for us.
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bobnewbury
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The problem is that without the influx of immigrants the demographic profile of the UK will change dramatically. With a larger elderly population and insufficient of working age actually generating wealth, who's going to pay our pensions when we sail off into the sunset.
There is a substantial body of evidence showing that immigrants throughout history have contributed more to the economy of the country to which they come than they take out of it.
You don't want to believe everything you read in the Daily Mail.
Nationalism is just tribalism with flags.
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There is a substantial body of evidence showing that immigrants throughout history have contributed more to the economy of the country to which they come than they take out of it.
You don't want to believe everything you read in the Daily Mail.
Nationalism is just tribalism with flags.
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bobnewbury
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Ah, but if you'd had the new integrated GPS (with elevation on) and wind speed and direction indicators it would have shown that you were running downhill with the wind behind you.
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bobnewbury
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What would really do it is a nice, big electromagnetic pulse.
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StugeronSteve
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Galileo is PROPOSED, but a long way from reality. I understand that there is also going to be a sort of GPSki put up by the Russians, so maybe if we carry three sets around we might be ok.
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BrendanS
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Galileo is not actually that far off. The first of the satellites are launched next year, the entire system due for completion 2008.
It will be compatible with GPS, so no reason for multiple gps sets.
The Russian system is already in operation, and has been for over a decade. The first of the Glonass satellites was launched 82, and the system functional 93. The system is being updated with satellites with longer live spans (7 instead of 3 years) and is called Glonass-M. These started launching a few years ago, and the new system will be complete 2007.
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It will be compatible with GPS, so no reason for multiple gps sets.
The Russian system is already in operation, and has been for over a decade. The first of the Glonass satellites was launched 82, and the system functional 93. The system is being updated with satellites with longer live spans (7 instead of 3 years) and is called Glonass-M. These started launching a few years ago, and the new system will be complete 2007.
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StugeronSteve
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Are either of the two intended to be subscription free, or will there be some sort of "pay per view" system built in?
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Stevie_T
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Okay, being a little out of touch with things GPS could somebody explain why we need a new GPS system. What is wrong or what may become wrong with the american system we all currently use? Apart from paranoia in case the yanks turn it off?
After all its accurate and its free, why would we want a European system we have to pay for?
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After all its accurate and its free, why would we want a European system we have to pay for?
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halcyon
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You hit the nail on the head,
After all its accurate and its free, why would we want a European system we have to pay for?
Come on you live in the EU know under new Labour.
Brian
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After all its accurate and its free, why would we want a European system we have to pay for?
Come on you live in the EU know under new Labour.
Brian
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BrendanS
Well-known member
Galileo is designed to be compatible with GPS. so you should be able to pick it up on existing gps sets.
The russian system works in the same way as GPS used to, the civilian service is degraded, and the military sets have decoders for greater accuracy. You need a different gps set to pick it up though
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The russian system works in the same way as GPS used to, the civilian service is degraded, and the military sets have decoders for greater accuracy. You need a different gps set to pick it up though
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BrendanS
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GPS has simply become too important to such organisations as military and airlines to leave in the hands of one country.
USA can turn off or degrade services to countries (by switching off signals as the satellites pass over that zone) while leaving other areas unaffected.Don't forget that both GPS and Glonass are run and funded by the military.The European space agency have decided to hedge their bets and make sure that gps is available outside US control. Galileo is a civilian run operation, not military
Galileo is being funded not only by EU but by many other countries . Agreements have already been signed with China and Israel and discussions are under way with India, Russia, Brazil, South Korea, Mexico and Australia etc etc
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USA can turn off or degrade services to countries (by switching off signals as the satellites pass over that zone) while leaving other areas unaffected.Don't forget that both GPS and Glonass are run and funded by the military.The European space agency have decided to hedge their bets and make sure that gps is available outside US control. Galileo is a civilian run operation, not military
Galileo is being funded not only by EU but by many other countries . Agreements have already been signed with China and Israel and discussions are under way with India, Russia, Brazil, South Korea, Mexico and Australia etc etc
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