Palma to uk boat transport

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Im looking at a phantom 46 here, some years back 1997 to be precise my father bought a histar 42 back from Palma to Poole on a ship, the waddenzee through peters and may, it cost about £6500 then. Anyone know what today's prices are either by road from mainland Spain, looking at map Valencia is nearest from Palma via Ibiza or direct north to s o f. Then by truck, what's my best option as road transport involves props, rudders, radar arch etc off, paying someone to do that etc, where last time it was just lifted on to ship, strapped and 7 days later it's in uk. Anyone done it recently?
I'm looking at buying boat but need to factor costs as well into overall price.
 
Ship would be around £15k, whereas lorry would be £6k if you got it to Port Napoleon just west of Marseille. To southampton I mean. Coast-to-Coast come well recommended for the road service and have good guys in Port Napoleon to remove r rudders, props and radar arch

Unless you have big range your sea route would be Palma to Palamos for fuel then Port Napoleon. Palamos is a good fuel stop, nice marina, etc. You have to check the weather carefully for crossing the Golfe du Lyon but there are frequent good weather windows so not a major problem

Sounds nice: good luck with it. But why don't you save the money and keep it the boat in the Med?
 
Sounds nice: good luck with it. But why don't you save the money and keep it the boat in the Med?[/QUOTE]

I was waiting for that :D
 
I shipped my boat an Aquastar 48 from Gibraltar to Southampton in 2007 £10k.

I looked at road transport from Spain and Portugal to St Malo but Spanish briges are lower than French ones. If you speak to one of the boat hauliers they will tell you if your type of boat can be moved by trailer in France and I assume if you are flexible time wise the price for a return load when they deliver a new British boat to south of France would be better.

Also consider a french haulier and drop it in the water at Cherbourg, Carteret or St Quay Portrieux or St Brieuc and then drive it accross channel.

I would assume that a Phantom 46 is built to be road transportable in France.
 
rbcoomer said:
Excuse my lack of knowledge, but surely at 46' she's more than capable of arriving under her own power via sea? I'm guessing there must be a time factor at work here otherwise seems a missed opportunity for a great trip! :confused::D
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Cost yes, fuel at 0.7 mpg and time off work along with weather window.

Jfm, med is great but I need boat in uk as its my b n b while working south, also I don't have time or money to keep boat in med, we're not close to cheap airlines either and my wife works normal office hours, but thanks for your input, maybe in 4 years time when we move south we could be in the med.
 
Agree with jfm. That was the exact route but in reverse that my old Ferretti 46 got to Palma from Holland. I used http://www.vandewetering.nl Excellent service at a competitive price. Make sure you ask for a return load price ie where the truck delivers a boat to the Med and would have returned empty. Also make sure your own insurance policy covers the trip as standard freight CMR insurance only covers a load on a £ per ton basis.
In my case they had to remove the radar arch plus everything on top of course, helm console, seat backs and fridge/sink unit. Seemed like a major job to me but the VdW people had it all back together again in Port Napoleon in less than a day. Can't remember the exact cost but it was around €4500 but that was back in 2005 so expect it to be more now
 
I shipped my boat by road from Sant Carles to Poole in 2010 for £4250 plus lifts and derigging.

The truck would have taken your proposed boat www.boat-shift.com Sant Carles is an MDL marina and there is regular traffic to and from UK. The yard is very efficient and relatively cheap and only 100 miles or so from Mallorca. Loaded on a Wednesday evening, in the water in Poole the next Tuesday.
 
volvopaul said:
Cost yes, fuel at 0.7 mpg and time off work along with weather window.

Jfm, med is great but I need boat in uk as its my b n b while working south, also I don't have time or money to keep boat in med, we're not close to cheap airlines either and my wife works normal office hours, but thanks for your input, maybe in 4 years time when we move south we could be in the med.
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Fair comment - I thought you'd get a little better mpg than that so can see why that would be a limiting factor. Shame as it would be quite a trip and I was already looking forward to the write up! :D
 
rbcoomer said:
Fair comment - I thought you'd get a little better mpg than that so can see why that would be a limiting factor. Shame as it would be quite a trip and I was already looking forward to the write up! :D
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Its not just the fuel cost and the time. You're putting extra hours on the engines and hence depreciating your boat and potentially risking breakdown as well which could be costly. Its a bit of a no brainer really. Unless your boat has a sail, it makes sense to stick it on a truck or a ship to the Med. Quicker, cheaper and your boat arrives in the same condition as you bought it
 
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Its not just the fuel cost and the time. You're putting extra hours on the engines and hence depreciating your boat and potentially risking breakdown as well which could be costly. Its a bit of a no brainer really. Unless your boat has a sail, it makes sense to stick it on a truck or a ship to the Med. Quicker, cheaper and your boat arrives in the same condition as you bought it
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Yup. It puts 120-150 hrs on the clocks and that could hurt you in depreciation. The trip is unlilkey to be enough fun to make that cost worthwile
 
Agreed. only worth doing by sea if it is part of a cruise where the journey is the purpose. A nice leisurely coast hop would be a pleasant way of spending a spring/early summer, but high cost once you include fuel, marina bills, subsistence etc.
 
I can understand where you are coming from with this engine hours thing, but I come from a commercial fishing background, where 120 hours is less than 2 weeks use, and it strikes me as somewhat odd that modern super-dooper engines are treated with such kid-gloves, and people are so put off by an engine that gets used occaisonally!
 
Errr???

Ok, I get the fuel cost and the extended time away from work, even the weather - but not using a boat because of added hours/depreciation...:confused: I must be missing something here as surely you primarily buy a boat to use it/enjoy it? :rolleyes:

I do see VP's use as a kind of holiday home in reverse however and given property prices and the added bonus of being able to enjoy it too, that makes a whole lot of sense. In fact, I think I need to work away so I can justify a bigger boat... :D
 
simon barefoot said:
I can understand where you are coming from with this engine hours thing, but I come from a commercial fishing background, where 120 hours is less than 2 weeks use, and it strikes me as somewhat odd that modern super-dooper engines are treated with such kid-gloves, and people are so put off by an engine that gets used occaisonally!
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Agreed. Engineeringly, 120 hrs is nothing. Fact is though if you are selling a 46 foot flybridge boat its better if it has 590 hours than 710, or 890 instead of 1010. It's how the market behaves; I'm not saying it makes any sense!
 
rbcoomer said:
I must be missing something here as surely you primarily buy a boat to use it/enjoy it? :rolleyes:
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Yes but 10 days on the run of 200 miles a day isn't everyone's idea of enjoying it. It certainly aint mine and that's why i always put my boats on a ship. I would rahter do the 120 hours cruisng when i get to my destination area, instead of getting there. Each to their own though!
 
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