Painting hull dilemmas

Interesting, maybe the follow up with the pad is the key. I had a yard do it. They were supposed to spray and at the last minute they brushed. Even after polishing I could see the brush marks and told them to do it again spraying as agreed. It now looks fabulous.
 
In my humble opinion there is absolutely nothing worse than a grp yacht that has been painted in a darker colour than the original gelcoat and then bumped into various things.

If you know you will never scrape or hit anything or get a bit of barnacle on a fender, then fine.
 
Look into International Perfection Pro. I've used it ... very hard finish and flows on with a roller and doesn't need tipping off.
 
wombat88 said:
In my humble opinion there is absolutely nothing worse than a grp yacht that has been painted in a darker colour than the original gelcoat and then bumped into various things.

If you know you will never scrape or hit anything or get a bit of barnacle on a fender, then fine.
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My bold.
Possibly a 70s yacht in BL Brown would be a strong contender?

White with hints of brown where fenders and polishing have taken their toll on the paint thickness won't be great either.
If you have a painted boat, you have to touch up scratches, that's life.

If we'd had this thread a few years back, people would be discussing vinyl wrapping. Has that turned out to be a poor idea?
 
Possibly BL aubergine?

There was a thread about wrapping, can't find it now, not sure how positive it was...or not.
 
The yard we kept our boat at in Holland paints boats. I thought they spray painted them, because the finish was outstanding. It was all done by brush. The trick is in the preparation and the paint has to have the right consistency. Epiphanes is the brand of paint they recommend. They quoted me 5000 euros for the job - like that was going to happen. We will do it ourselves - I'm handy and an arts background has to be good for something. On paint: there are online providers offering one and two pack polyurethane paints at less than half the price of the ones with an anchor on them and in any colour you like. You send them a colour sample and they will match. This will be the route we will be going.
 
lw395 said:
If we'd had this thread a few years back, people would be discussing vinyl wrapping. Has that turned out to be a poor idea?
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For anyone capable of rational thought, it was pretty obvious it's a bad idea. Like painting a white hull blue, but without the option of touching up the marks left by real life. By all means wrap a sponsored racing boat, you can have a new wrap next season for your new sponsor, but it's not for normal people.
 
Stemar said:
For anyone capable of rational thought, it was pretty obvious it's a bad idea. Like painting a white hull blue, but without the option of touching up the marks left by real life. By all means wrap a sponsored racing boat, you can have a new wrap next season for your new sponsor, but it's not for normal people.
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That's an opinion.
My view would rather depend on the cost.
A hull repaint is very expensive. Also disruptive, if you're going to de-rig the boat and get indoors for a period.
A local business I know has some wrapped vans. They seem to be surviving OK.
I suspect the wrap is tougher than paint?
How long does a paint job last? 10 years? How many times could the boat be wrapped for the price?

Just curious, no personal interest.
 
A wander round the internet suggests that a car would cost around £2500, depending on size. If you're only doing the hull, I'd guess a boat will probably be less labour but more vinyl. One site said a wrap is dearer than a cheap respray and cheaper than a top-end one. On that basis, I'd guess that a hull wrap would be cheaper than the kind of paint job you're talking about.

As for life, it seems that, on a car, you could expect a 5-year life for a wrap. I reckon that, even without dings, fenders rubbing would reduce that significantly for a boat.
 
A friend of ours hand painted his boat, a large 32', well rolled it actually. He used a one pot paint by Epiphanes with 4% International flow agent. The latter is the key. He was thoroughly meticulous in his prep and application and made sure there were no lose hairs on the rollers etc. He did not tip off with a brush.
The finish is absolutely perfect, with not a trace of orange skin effect or anything else to mar a mirror-like sheen. Even professionals could not believe that it was not spray painted.
The disadvantage of one-pot systems is that they are softer than the two-pot variety. The entire procedure cost him 800 euros, paint and all, including haul-out and dry storage for six weeks (due to poor weather).
With discipline and care, this job can certainly be done by anyone who does not have two left hands.
 
Personally, I once painted a boat with one-pot 'marine' gloss and it went so badly I wiped it off, drove down to the trade paints place and bought a can of Dulux.
I put that on with a foam 'Jenny' brush. It went on as a quite thin coat, looked fine and still looked fine some years after I'd sold the boat.
It was a fairly modest boat which I sold for about £10k.
DIY outside, pick your day and use paint you're familiar with.
Practice on your garage door or something.
These days, modern car paint is probably worth looking into?
 
Stemar said:
A wander round the internet suggests that a car would cost around £2500, depending on size. If you're only doing the hull, I'd guess a boat will probably be less labour but more vinyl. One site said a wrap is dearer than a cheap respray and cheaper than a top-end one. On that basis, I'd guess that a hull wrap would be cheaper than the kind of paint job you're talking about.

As for life, it seems that, on a car, you could expect a 5-year life for a wrap. I reckon that, even without dings, fenders rubbing would reduce that significantly for a boat.
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So as a comparison it cost me £6k to have the paint removed, new gelcoat applied and polished and the blue stripe and boottop re-applied on a 34ft yacht. (toe rail - waterline). Finish is excellent and back to proper gelcoat.

Anybody have a professional price for painting a similar size boat?

Yoda
 
yoda said:
So as a comparison it cost me £6k to have the paint removed, new gelcoat applied and polished and the blue stripe and boottop re-applied on a 34ft yacht. (toe rail - waterline). Finish is excellent and back to proper gelcoat.

Anybody have a professional price for painting a similar size boat?
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Sounds like you got a bargain.
 
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