Ouse trent cruise planning

[Impulse]

We at planning a trip from Goole down to trent end and up the trent in mid June

Anyone got experience advice or would like to join us pls let me know.
I have plenty of experience of these rivers but not this section so a bit apprehensive

Thx

Chris

 

[kashurst]

make sure you understand tides and transits before you go and you must have a VHF radio to talk to the locks and bridges. You will almost certainly have to anchor at trent end for a few hours to wait for the tide to come back before you set off down the trent. When the tide turns the current can be pretty strong and your boat will change direction relative to the orignal position so keep a good anchor watch in case you start to drag. Don't make my early mistake and set off too soon, better to wait until there's lots of water then the trent is easy. The trickiest bit from memory is the stretch from the M62 bridge on the Ouse up to the entrance to Goole Lock. Its pretty shallow there and timing is everything. From memory its best to go through Naburn lock as soon as possible, you may have to wait at Selby for the bridge to open depending on your airdraught and the tide height. Don't get too close to the bridge as its on a bend so if you have to wait its a tricky place to keep position using your engine(s). As you approach selby there is a big warehouse (red brick) on the left bank - good place to call the bridge from and sit tight in the middle of the river. Have you got copies of the River guides for both the trent and ouse. Have a chat to others in your marina as some of them will be able to update the river guides as the shallow bits vary. The rivers have marker posts with lights and numbers on them that match up with the river guides. Sometimes you are quite far from them so a pair of binoculars is a big help so you know where you are. The river trent once past Gainsborough is lovely. If you have never gone to the Apex/trent end before probably best to go in company. At the time of year you suggest there will no doubt be a few boats waiting at Naburn lock.

 

[trouty12]

From Goole you are quite close to Trent end so have several option (dependant on your boat draft).

You could leave Goole at the beginning of a rising tide (subject to boat power) and go directly up the Trent.

You could depart Goole on the falling morning tide, anchor at Trent end (which is usually very pleasant) and go up the Trent on the afternoon tide. (best option)

The fact is that the Trent can often be negotiated at just about any tide state (the gravel barges do it regularly) but I would not recommend it unless very familiar with the journey. Spring tides, especially if coinciding with low fresh water flows, would need to be avoided. Whilst bridge clearance can occasionally be a problem at Gainsborough, if you hit it at the top of a high tide.

Make sure you have a copy of the Trent Boating Associations chart book and follow it closely. with care the journey is fairly simple and very enjoyable.

Where will you head for (Keadby,Stockwell,Torksey or Cromwell)? what size,power and draft is your boat?

 

[Impulse]

Thx guys

Impulse is a Wolstenholme cruising barge we are based at Long Sandal she is 60" 200 hp 12 knots 1mt draught 3 mt air draught this is the only section of rivers We haven't explored took her all the way to Linton last summer and back with a stopover in Selbyfor the tide at reeds island it's much easier that way with my speed

We are well equiped nav wise just never done it before

We will prob head for Cromwell done it from Keadby so should be ok
Holding to get in company with so one this trip just for this section appreciate most of the Hck guys are much faster though

 

[trouty12]

10 to 12 Knots will be a very pleasant speed for the trip. You can't realistically do considerably more than that beyond Gunness (although some push it up to Gainsborough).

I would choose a day when the tide times are convenient to leave Goole at the back end of the outgoing morning tide. Drop the hook at Trent end, wait about 45 mins' after the tide turns then go up the Trent. That approach should be hassle free and give you enough water to reach Cromwell. However, as it's a long journey and if there's not much fresh (rainfall) then consider breaking your journey at Torksey. The pub is convivial and serves cheap, very acceptable food (and beer)!

 

[macnorton]

Sent a link to nav notes via pm

 

[Impulse]

Thx for the link much appreciated .

Interestingly our previous boat was a project RLM
Similar to yours poss lovely boat

Chris

 

[rafiki_]

CX54WEK (I think is the user name) is based at Sheffield and she cruises extensively on the Trent, Humber and anywhere else in hre S23. She can fill you in with all you need to know.

 

[Momac]

Having a 12 knot boat makes a difference compared to a 20 knot boat .
I have a 20+knot boat so can leave Goole early and beat the tide to Trent Falls then get the benefit of the tide up the Trent without needing to anchor.
But you will not want to try that as the incoming tide can be 5 knots.
Leave Goole at just before high water and anchor at Trent falls and wait for the next tide to carry you up the Trent.

In any case you will need to anchor for the return to Goole.

I asume you have a working VHF and already know it is a requirement - otherwise the lock keeper will not let you out of Goole.
And I trust you have the Trent Series charts for the Ouse and the Trent Check the notices to mariners on the ABP website and view their charts, also on the ABP website , to check in case of any issues with the ususal ancorage. The anchorage is just a little way up the Trent from Trent falls.

 

[CX54WEK]

If its a pleasant day then anchoring at Trent End to wait for the incoming tide is our preferred option. That way you have the benefit of the tide all the way up to Cromwell if you cruse at about 6 knots.

I would echo the sentiment that it is worthwhile breaking the cruise at either Torksey where you can moor in the cut or at West Stockwith where you will have to lock up into the basin. Either way it will break up what will otherwise be a fairly long days cruise.

It is wise to have a copy of the most recent charts as the channel doesnt always follow the obvious course, although the major areas to watch out for are well sign posted it is nice to have some warning that they are approaching.

Pick a nice day and it is a very pleasant cruise, sometimes you wont see another boat all day. If the weather is a bit bad it can feel very desolate and a god forsaken stretch of water.......