Our New Boat In Build

Moody said:
We're a bit premature in disclosing the name as we're still waiting for permission from Unilever to use their trademark, but hopefully they wont have a problem with it.
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I'm confused! Were you being serious? There's no smiley. Are you really going to ak them? I would just do it and wait for them to complain. Especially after the 9 tonnes of the goo that I've bought in my life (at 12 euros a jar in Antibes) :-)
 
jfm said:
I'm confused! Were you being serious? There's no smiley. Are you really going to ak them? I would just do it and wait for them to complain. Especially after the 9 tonnes of the goo that I've bought in my life (at 12 euros a jar in Antibes) :-)
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No seriously I have asked their permission (I'm married to Mrs Cautious). To make the name work we need to use the exact banner style as seen on the jar, and once they have agreed I'll be asking for them to provide the artwork.

To be honest if they don't come back to me I'll be using it anyway.

Neil
 
At the risk of fred drift - Marmite flavoured cashews, anyone? Absolute heaven but they do play havoc with the digestion.
 
Moody said:
While we're drifting SWMBO wants to know if anyone's tried Marmite chocolate
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Yuk! I got those champagne and guiness marmites and they were horrid. But those new marmite flavoured rice cakes are wonderful

I also remeber a couple of years ago Jamie Oliver on weekend TV sharing a little secret with us all which was to make toasted cheese sandwiches with marmite in them. I was doing that before he was born, bless 'im :-)
 
Moody said:
To be honest if they don't come back to me I'll be using it anyway.
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That's hilarious when you think about it. You're asking them, but you're gonna do it anyway. Way to go!

You could grab the artwork off the 'net and get Csail or FunkyMonkey to make the decal I reckon
 
jfm said:
Yuk! I got those champagne and guiness marmites and they were horrid. But those new marmite flavoured rice cakes are wonderful

I also remeber a couple of years ago Jamie Oliver on weekend TV sharing a little secret with us all which was to make toasted cheese sandwiches with marmite in them. I was doing that before he was born, bless 'im :-)
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The real joy is hot buttered toast, with Marmite and peanut butter (BTW it has to be Skippy Crunchy from the USA). My entire family (and I have a large family) eat this for breakfast most mornings. Trust me, you'll never look back.

Skippy peanut butter used to be available from Waitrose, but they stopped stocking it. You can however get it from Ocado. Try searching on it, you'll be surprised at the fan base Skippy has. Even AVForums has threads on it: http://www.avforums.com/forums/general-chat/389398-skippys-peanut-butter.html

Thread drift? OK, to bring it back, I was at the Sealine factory a few months ago. Clean and well organised, with a nice bunch of people. I have a soft spot for the extending cockpits, the fold out 3rd cabin on the SC47 and the view from the lower helm on the new 42.
 
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I've seen this thread only now, very interesting.
And lovely boat! Looking forward to the next set of pics.
For what can be seen in the first of your pics above, the hull finishing is really impressive.
I would swear that all Sealines I've seen so far were nowhere near that level of mould quality.
 
MapisM said:
I've seen this thread only now, very interesting.
And lovely boat! Looking forward to the next set of pics.
For what can be seen in the first of your pics above, the hull finishing is really impressive.
I would swear that all Sealines I've seen so far were nowhere near that level of mould quality.
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Pay attention Mapis is always difficult to say this by pictures.

But we have a yellow SC35 in Malta delivered new last year, and I must say the moulding is top notch. Warping is also more easy to see with color and here you don't see any.
May be has something to do with the Americans taking over, as they are pretty fussy on the moulding issue theme.
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
Pay attention Mapis is always difficult to say this by pictures.
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Yep PYB, I know.
But I've seen pics of hulls from rather reputable builders where it was easy to spot irregularities, and this one doesn't show any, for what can be seen in those pics.
It would be interesting to see the hull sides from a more diagonal perspective, if Moody could take other pics of her.
 
MapisM said:
Yep PYB, I know.
But I've seen pics of hulls from rather reputable builders where it was easy to spot irregularities, and this one doesn't show any, for what can be seen in those pics.
It would be interesting to see the hull sides from a more diagonal perspective, if Moody could take other pics of her.
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I think you're right Mapis becuase i noticed it at the boat show- no ripples and it's a excellent finish. One reason is that in the last 5 years or so plugs have been cut from foam block by huge multiaxis cutters, whereas they used to be made in plywood/mdf sheet over frames, which causes ripples

There are a few operators of really big multi axis cutters now and it doesn't matter where they are in the world becuase the boatbuilder just emails them the CAD file. when Fairline want a new tool making they email the file to a few axis-cutter companies for a quote, and recently they had some made in Australia
 
Many famous builders from EU have ripples. But I better not spoil the names here.
While a plug made of CNC helps the real two reasons are taking off the mold earlier, and little waxing of the mold. A reputable builder does it every one or two builds. Some builds go as far as 10.
I remember in Genoa a few years ago we used to give votes to this with my friends, and I think to remember Hatteras always made it first. Impressive finishing, considering they are painted it is also a better result. Coincidently Hatteras and Sealine are both Brunswich owned. The Italian Colombo also used to have very good mold finish. Don't know about the new ones made by Sarnico, altough the structure of the old company as far as I know has stayed.
 
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PowerYachtBlog said:
two reasons are taking off the mold earlier, and little waxing of the mold.
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Sure, taking boat out of mould too early can cause ripples around frames and stringers, but nearly all of the ripples you see on boats are not that; they're just imperfect aliginment of the plywood/MDF as the plug was made

I don't agree at all that lack of release wax causes ripples. That just makes no sense.
 
MapisM said:
Yep PYB, I know.
But I've seen pics of hulls from rather reputable builders where it was easy to spot irregularities, and this one doesn't show any, for what can be seen in those pics.
It would be interesting to see the hull sides from a more diagonal perspective, if Moody could take other pics of her.
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I think I have a more diaganol shot which I can post later
 
SC35

I saw a completed version recently with the less popular green finish

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jfm said:
Sure, taking boat out of mould too early can cause ripples around frames and stringers, but nearly all of the ripples you see on boats are not that; they're just imperfect aliginment of the plywood/MDF as the plug was made

I don't agree at all that lack of release wax causes ripples. That just makes no sense.
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Dont agree here, as I have done the last year doing molds and stuff myself, and its impressive how sensible the gel is. Give just one coat of wax instead of the standard three in a mold and u have warping. Release it half a day earlier and it has warping.

You can see that this is more about yards meeting up with deadlines. To also be fair with Eurobuilders I also think the gel they use is also usually thicker and less of sprayable product. Gel thickness usually comes with specs from manufecteres. The US builders use a higher quality gel which also has to be laid out a coulpe of mils thinner to what most EU builders use.

Another confirmation of this is that sometimes you see the same model of boat which is molded very fine, and after that you see a sistership which is not so good. But this can also be a new mold so unless you work at a yard you can never actually be sure of this. Sometimes tooling is doubled after twenty models are built so is always difficult to judge this from outside...
 
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