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Fr J Hackett

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A little advice please:
Hopefully next weekend will be our first foray into the local waters of our new home and a sail to the Ore would be my preferance, however it's springs and given a reasonable start time we should make the entrance an hour or two after high water. We draw 1.5 M so there should be ample water but what are the conditions likely to be like in terms current. I appreaciate that entrances are best made at slack water but that is not allways possible so what about the Ore?

As the season progresses there will more questions I am sure, Southwold is on the list, so consider this Q1 volume 1

Thanks

Pete:)
 
Others more experienced may offer differing advice, but my understanding is that once the ebb starts to run, and especially on springs it may be difficult/impossible to make any headway, unless of course you can do 7 or 8 knots under engine.

I have only entered or departed when the tide is flooding, how close to low water depends on your draft and if it is springs or neaps.
 
The published advice for the Ore is to enter on a flood tide. However the ebb starts in the river an hour or so after high water at Orford Haven which is useful if you don't quite make it in time for HW.

Once past the two buoys the tide runs hard and I expect that it would become very tedious trying to make it up to Orford, some 4 miles upstream, against a spring ebb.
 
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Thanks

simon14b said:
The published advice for both Ore is to enter on a flood tide. However the ebb starts in the river an hour or so after high water at Orford Haven which is useful if you don't quite make it in time for HW.

Once past the two buoys the tide runs hard and I expect that it would become very tedious trying to make it up to Orford, some 4 miles upstream, against a spring ebb.
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Thanks Simon, it's either get up early or leave it for a more favourable tide, the later I think
 
Thanks for the info, if the weather looks reasonable ie no rain (don't do rain voluntarily) I think we will try and get up early and go in on the last of the flood and perhaps get an idea of the strength of the tide at Shingle street later on for future reference. What concerns me about Southwold is turning the boat around in the limited space but since generations have been doing it with even less manouverable boats than mine I am sure it will all work out though.
 
Karouise said:
Deben chart is 2010 - Ore / Alde was showing 2009.
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there are notes on that page tho :copied from page

Latest Navigation reports (newest at the top)
Weir Buoy (Ore Entrance) has moved
The Weir (Green) Buoy in the Ore Entrance has been moved to accomodate shoal movements. Its new position is
52° 01 752N 001° 27 286E
This is approximately 25m west of its previous position.
Stephen Read, Assistant Harbourmaster Felixstowe Ferry 05/05/02010
Weir and Oxley Buoys in Ore Entrance back on station
The seasonal buoys Weir (Green) and Oxley (Red) have been put back on station for 2010. The positions are the same as the end of 2009 as shown below.
Orford Haven - 52° 01.604 N 01° 27.987 E
Oxley - 52° 01.680 N 1° 27.510 E
Weir - 52° 01.760 N 1° 27.340 E
Stephen Read, Assistant Harbourmaster Felixstowe Ferry 01/04/02010
 
If the Ore chartlet is the same as 2009 it's because the Trinity House survey in March 2010 found no reason to move the buoys, altho as the previous poster points out, the Weir buoy has now been moved a short distance last week, presumably because the banks had moved a bit.
 
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