PhilF
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get one of each, problem solved
Open vs Flybridge
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DAKA
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If it is for playing in the Solent then a cuddy type is fine.
But if you want to cruise far you should consider the Flybridge.
You are higher up and the waves look smaller and less intimidating.
In a sports boat as soon as it gets choppy the canopy goes up and you will see sad all !
Just have a look in St Peter port, St Helier, St Vaast, etc and see how few sports boats make it, those that do put their families off and dont cross again !
There will be a few lucky ones who get the weather right and some in 40ft plus sports boats that are fine but a flybridge will give you a sense of security that you will only achieve with a 10 Ft longer sports boat.
But if you want to cruise far you should consider the Flybridge.
You are higher up and the waves look smaller and less intimidating.
In a sports boat as soon as it gets choppy the canopy goes up and you will see sad all !
Just have a look in St Peter port, St Helier, St Vaast, etc and see how few sports boats make it, those that do put their families off and dont cross again !
There will be a few lucky ones who get the weather right and some in 40ft plus sports boats that are fine but a flybridge will give you a sense of security that you will only achieve with a 10 Ft longer sports boat.
Illusion
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Well thanks guys and girls!!
First day on the forum and several interesting points that some of you have noted for us considder.
Think its confirming my view that flybridge may be the way to go. Seriously considering a 2 or 3 year old Fairline Phantom 40 rather than a Targa 34 or 38.
Any first hand experiences of Phantom 40's would realy be welcome.
First day on the forum and several interesting points that some of you have noted for us considder.
Think its confirming my view that flybridge may be the way to go. Seriously considering a 2 or 3 year old Fairline Phantom 40 rather than a Targa 34 or 38.
Any first hand experiences of Phantom 40's would realy be welcome.
benjenbav
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Well, I very much like my sports boat which suits me for the Solenty day boating which is what I tend to do.
On the other hand I do like the look of the Phantom 40.
Another thing, all the flybridge advocates seem to be saying they hate covers and zips but most of the ones I see seem to have just as much canvas as I do.
On the other hand I do like the look of the Phantom 40.
Another thing, all the flybridge advocates seem to be saying they hate covers and zips but most of the ones I see seem to have just as much canvas as I do.
oldgit
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A couple of my chums have "sports" type boats which include a Targa 43 and Birchwood 38.
Recent trips out does tend to highlight the shortcomings of the boats for all weather cruising and lack of space down below.Large areas of the boats are dedicated to acres of fairly pointless curvey seating with the odd table planted exactly in the wrong place.
When these things are on the move and the whole point of them is doing 30 crash bang wallop knots everywhere you go,everybody has to stand up and hang on for dear life while trying to wipe the tears gushing from your profusely watering eyes.The seating being next to useless to keep you in situ.When you finally arrive at your destination you will spend at least 20 mins lifting up aforementioned rubbish seats trying to hide acres of blue canvas with broken zips a dangling or relocate stuff stored in 10 deep dark assorted dark whiffy cubby holes.
Do not get me started on the 30% of the sports boat wasted as a Jetrib/tender garage.
Next time you watch the returning hordes in your marina,see the difference between the relaxed happy flybridge owners assuring their guests that there is no need to thank them yet again for the comfortable trip out and of course they can come again,this in stark contrast to the shell shocked watery eyed crew leaving the scene of the sports boat crime in a hurry to get a warm bath with every aching bone reminding them to never answer the phone again when an SAS assault course would be more relaxing.
Ps.Its December and you want to go Flybridge boating.It takes 30secs to close the patio door and turn on the heating and 29 of those are to take off your outdoor coats.
PPs Its December and you want to go sports boating......er best turn over and keep dreaming until late spring.
Recent trips out does tend to highlight the shortcomings of the boats for all weather cruising and lack of space down below.Large areas of the boats are dedicated to acres of fairly pointless curvey seating with the odd table planted exactly in the wrong place.
When these things are on the move and the whole point of them is doing 30 crash bang wallop knots everywhere you go,everybody has to stand up and hang on for dear life while trying to wipe the tears gushing from your profusely watering eyes.The seating being next to useless to keep you in situ.When you finally arrive at your destination you will spend at least 20 mins lifting up aforementioned rubbish seats trying to hide acres of blue canvas with broken zips a dangling or relocate stuff stored in 10 deep dark assorted dark whiffy cubby holes.
Do not get me started on the 30% of the sports boat wasted as a Jetrib/tender garage.
Next time you watch the returning hordes in your marina,see the difference between the relaxed happy flybridge owners assuring their guests that there is no need to thank them yet again for the comfortable trip out and of course they can come again,this in stark contrast to the shell shocked watery eyed crew leaving the scene of the sports boat crime in a hurry to get a warm bath with every aching bone reminding them to never answer the phone again when an SAS assault course would be more relaxing.
Ps.Its December and you want to go Flybridge boating.It takes 30secs to close the patio door and turn on the heating and 29 of those are to take off your outdoor coats.
PPs Its December and you want to go sports boating......er best turn over and keep dreaming until late spring.
benjenbav
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Next time you watch the returning hordes in your marina,see the difference between the relaxed happy flybridge owners assuring their guests that there is no need to thank them yet again for the comfortable trip out and of course they can come again,this in stark contrast to the shell shocked watery eyed crew leaving the scene of the sports boat crime in a hurry to get a warm bath with every aching bone reminding them to never answer the phone again when an SAS assault course would be more relaxing.
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I did wonder when I recently took a friend who has an 8m rib out on my sports boat. He said he had thought it would all be a bit dull and not crash bang wallopy enough for his liking but that he had been pleasantly surprised.
Next time you watch the returning hordes in your marina,see the difference between the relaxed happy flybridge owners assuring their guests that there is no need to thank them yet again for the comfortable trip out and of course they can come again,this in stark contrast to the shell shocked watery eyed crew leaving the scene of the sports boat crime in a hurry to get a warm bath with every aching bone reminding them to never answer the phone again when an SAS assault course would be more relaxing.
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I did wonder when I recently took a friend who has an 8m rib out on my sports boat. He said he had thought it would all be a bit dull and not crash bang wallopy enough for his liking but that he had been pleasantly surprised.
Pinnacle
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Happy birthday!! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
jcmmarine
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Whichever, but consider makeing sure air draft compatable with European wateraways. Eventualy most people want to go there and I regularly meet people that regret that they cannot fit.
Frontier
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Forget what all the other say, what you want is one of these
Best of both worlds, /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
OK it's what I would like, I get fed up with putting the tent up over the cockpit on my open, but I dont think I fancy doing all my inside living at pontoon level on a flybridge.
Its a Windy Grand Mistral 37 in case you were wondering, saw one at the boat show, Well made and appointed and the saleslady was one of the nicest and welcoming people at the show.
Cheers
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Best of both worlds, /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
OK it's what I would like, I get fed up with putting the tent up over the cockpit on my open, but I dont think I fancy doing all my inside living at pontoon level on a flybridge.
Its a Windy Grand Mistral 37 in case you were wondering, saw one at the boat show, Well made and appointed and the saleslady was one of the nicest and welcoming people at the show.
Cheers
D
Nautical
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How dare you sir /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif..............you mean he wants one of these /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
No1_Moose
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Wrong...he want's one of these
GC1
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A fine example of pure wasted tender garage space, why on earth store air? but thanks for reminding me /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Hurricane
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Frontier
Which one?
I'd definately have the blonde one in the little black number.
Which one?
I'd definately have the blonde one in the little black number.
Nautical
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Cus some people aren't as old as you and like to have one of these...... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
GC1
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What that, a roll on roll off ferry? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Or an air storer /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
If the boat wasn't bulky and slow they would have no need to seek their thrills elsewhere /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
That's nearly a third of the boat acting as a shed /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
If the boat wasn't bulky and slow they would have no need to seek their thrills elsewhere /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
That's nearly a third of the boat acting as a shed /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Frontier
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Wow looks big for 40 ft /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Sorry everyone the site where the photo is shows it normal size, Its enormous on here. Can I do anything to change it?
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Sorry everyone the site where the photo is shows it normal size, Its enormous on here. Can I do anything to change it?
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Frontier
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Hi Hurricane
Was thinking the same myself, maybe a soft top is better after all !! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Was thinking the same myself, maybe a soft top is better after all !! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Nautical
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Better that than having a boat that is a shed like Moosey's one /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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I agree with you there. Those old fart flybridges, see them day in day out on the medway, dressing gown cords flying in the wind and the smell of pipe tobacco 
I think getting a flybridge is similar to admission to an old folks home, it's coming to term with the fact that all the fun in your life has come to an end and you are resigned to the fact you will be sitting dribbling soup down your chin until you die.
If I had wanted to be a pendulim I would rather have been a clock
I think getting a flybridge is similar to admission to an old folks home, it's coming to term with the fact that all the fun in your life has come to an end and you are resigned to the fact you will be sitting dribbling soup down your chin until you die.
If I had wanted to be a pendulim I would rather have been a clock