Oops I did it again.

dancrane said:
Mr Clown, I'm interested to learn (sorry if you've already said) how many times more expensive either of the Tridents will be to moor, than this one cost to buy?

I doubt if you paid as much for the whole boat, as the recent standing rigging will have cost the previous owner. At this rate, you could afford a third one...

...I wonder what's the collective name for a trio of Tridents? Fork it, I can't imagine.
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Yes, part of the rationale was to enable us to keep one yacht going at all times - having two identical makes things easier in this respect. Two is enough, just right. Mooring fees are what they are so we will just have to bear that, but it enables me to experiment with some of the stupid ideas I have without taking up space at work. Trouble with having a boat at work is it is just too tempting to have an hours play fettling, which turns in to a day, then two. I lose money more in lost productivity that way than having several moorings! Our moorings are very good value, but it is still a recurring expenxe that one day we all consider too much I guess, which is why we got this for less than the price of the bits we needed to finish the other one. As long as it is fun its not an issue. We are fortunate to have moorings within walking distance of the house so it is easier for us than many. Of the last five days we have been sailing for two, and only didnt go today as I didnt get enough work done to justify an early finish.
I really do understand the plight of those who live far from their boats and have little chance to get out often. That is why we are so blessed here. We are not rich, so sailing (the unglamorous bits, mooring, fuel, replacing gear etc etc) is a major part of our budget but for now we are happy. The time will come when we hang up our souwesters for the final time, and march off the pontoon to a landlubbing twilight, and when we do, I daresay we will let our boat go for a song, and be happy to see it go to a good home. Then whe whole process will begin again for another couple.
There must be a lot of pound notes at the bottom of the solent :D
 
solent clown said:
There must be a lot of pound notes at the bottom of the solent :D
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You are showing your age as pound notes were withdrawn in 1988. When I was a lad I can remember finding a 10 bob note floating on the surface in Dover harbour, so you should have said pound coins as they definitely sink. On reflection may be you should have said £50 notes and forget they might float, then those with low freeboard (like you) can easily collect them to aid their sailing budget.
 
Mr Clown is NOT telling the whole truth here I fear..
I think this could be a HIS Boat and HER Boat thing???? :encouragement:
(My guess is that HIS boat will always need the fuel tank filling?)

Oh and a name for three Tridents could always be Troika
 
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GeeW said:
Mr Clown is NOT telling the whole truth here I fear..
I think this could be a HIS Boat and HER Boat thing???? :encouragement:
(My guess is that HIS boat will always need the fuel tank filling?)

Oh and a name for three Tridents could always be Troika
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his an hers boats, now there is an idea.
 
I seem to remember Thelwell had that same idea...actually, this isn't the one I remember...

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...the one I recall had one hull named 'His', the other, 'Hers'. :)
 
We are going down to have a decent look at the "new" boat on Saturday, and dependent on how I feel about it I might move it Wednesday morning.
I have previously avoided Portsmouth harbour like the plague, and have never sailed it alone/on my own yacht.
This is my worst case plan, please feel free to shoot me down in flames.
I was planning to motor out about an hour and a half before high tide, so just after 8am next wednesday, that will let me through past spithead easily, then I can take a leisurely route back towrads southampton, trying out the sails once I am at Calshot, and I am back in home territory as it were. I do not want to find some huge problem with the rig and be floundering about with everyone on East Cowes with binoculars having a very entertaining time at my expense.
I know I am sounding timid, but I am more risk averse with an unknown larger boat than a good sized dinghy or small yacht. Dark visions of snapped halyards, jammed winches, broken mainsheets. I can cope with all that as long as I am back within the bosom of the Calshot. I will have plenty of time then on the rest of the trip to try everything out.
So in brief, motor out and around to Calshot, then have a play with the sails. My only concern is getting out of the harbour at that time (looks OK, but I have not done it before) and how busy is it at that time of day?
 
solent clown said:
So in brief, motor out and around to Calshot, then have a play with the sails. My only concern is getting out of the harbour at that time (looks OK, but I have not done it before) and how busy is it at that time of day?
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Weekday at this time of year there won't be much if any leisure traffic. Probably not much commercial either unless you happen to meet the Mont St Michel coming in - I presume you can still use the small boat channel while she does so, but it probably looks a little alarming on a first time. If you listen to QHM you will get plenty of warning of large traffic through the entrance. You need to talk to QHM before crossing the lower harbour but presumably this won't apply to you as you'll be coming down the west side anyway from most likely mooring locations.

8am next Wednesday you'll have perhaps a knot and a half of tide against you through the entrance, which I assume isn't a problem for you. The shore at Fort Blockhouse is steep-to so don't worry about that, but at some states of tide you can get a notable sideways shove as you pop out of the entrance. Not sure whether that will apply to you, I don't go through often enough to have assimilated what happens when.

Near high tide you will be able to turn right immediately outside the entrance to leave via the Inner Swashway if you want to. Otherwise carry on to the charted transit for the outer swashway. No need to stick too rigidly to the transit at high tide in a small boat.

Up to you, but it seems odd to me to wait until near Calshot to try out the sails. You have much more space to deal with "snapped halyards, jammed winches, broken mainsheets" in the eastern Solent (say once you've rounded Gilkicker) than you do in the shipping channel off Calshot. The gear won't behave better just because you're in a patch of water you've been in before.

Pete
 
prv said:
Weekday at this time of year there won't be much if any leisure traffic. Probably not much commercial either unless you happen to meet the Mont St Michel coming in - I presume you can still use the small boat channel while she does so, but it probably looks a little alarming on a first time. If you listen to QHM you will get plenty of warning of large traffic through the entrance. You need to talk to QHM before crossing the lower harbour but presumably this won't apply to you as you'll be coming down the west side anyway from most likely mooring locations.

8am next Wednesday you'll have perhaps a knot and a half of tide against you through the entrance, which I assume isn't a problem for you. The shore at Fort Blockhouse is steep-to so don't worry about that, but at some states of tide you can get a notable sideways shove as you pop out of the entrance. Not sure whether that will apply to you, I don't go through often enough to have assimilated what happens when.

Near high tide you will be able to turn right immediately outside the entrance to leave via the Inner Swashway if you want to. Otherwise carry on to the charted transit for the outer swashway. No need to stick too rigidly to the transit at high tide in a small boat.

Up to you, but it seems odd to me to wait until near Calshot to try out the sails. You have much more space to deal with "snapped halyards, jammed winches, broken mainsheets" in the eastern Solent (say once you've rounded Gilkicker) than you do in the shipping channel off Calshot. The gear won't behave better just because you're in a patch of water you've been in before.

Pete
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thanks Pete, I am sure as soon as we are underway I will lose all discipline and be temped to put up the sails, lol.
 
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