Oil Extractor Pump for oil out of bilges

[graham460]

Hello Sailors

I have just bought a boat 44' Motor sailor and it has about 2 " to 3" deep maybe of Dirt thick Oily water in the Bilges, the boat is in the marina

What I am asking is I would liek to Clean out all the bilges and paint that area..

I have looked on Force 4 Chandlery

What i was thinking of was putting Either a specialised cleaner in the bilges with more water then BUYING an extractor pump PELA OIL Heavy duty £59 6.0 Ltr and tubes to get EVERY last drop out and then Clean it with OIL ABSORBANT PAD as in Force 4 Page 77 (21:95)

then Dry the area and maybe paint it or Just keep it clean..

I know I will have to dispense the dirty water in a Suitable certified Location somewhere.

What I am asking is WHAT IS THE BEST Extractor pump PELA or Saego or another so it will suck up virtually all the Dirty Oily Water.

I think £59 is expensive But if it is worth is for good quality
Any advice would be helpful..


Secondly Intruder alarm..

I was thinking of getting a pressure mat then link it up to a Strobe light and Possible low volume Audio alarm
Plus Alarm for the doors and control panel with camera so I can see it when working away remotely when it send an SMS
Plus a GPS tracker



Reason for the pressure mat or another device is to DETER intruders from actually Breaking in the door and Causing damage


I have seen some options

1. Boat Warden
2. Yacht Sentinel
3. Aquamare


Any advice would be helpful


Best regards

graham

 

[Nigel-in-Oxford]

I use the small pela for my bilges (my new beta has a built in pump for oil changes). Good bit of kit, never tried others.
I have an old iPhone permanently mounted in my boat with a remote viewing app. I use it (it looks out of a window) to give me reassurance that the boat is safe on its mooring, the local weather etc. The find my iPhone app tells me where it is. However the solar panels (40W) do not keep up with the power usage in the winter especially when its foggy. So when in storage on land I switch the camera off, and just use it as a tracker. I don't bother with an alarm as no one would probably hear it.

 

[Deleted member 36384]

I have an old Vax wet and dry type vacuum cleaner that I use in my workshop. I have used it to suck up bilge water. It is fast and powerful. If you had such a machine I would recommend that you give it a go after breaking up the oil with water / detergent first.

 

[Kelpie]

I wouldn't spend £59 on something to empty the bilges of oil, although maybe you want an oil change pump for your engine anyway.
I change the oil in mine with a £12 Lidl 12v pump. Don't think I would use it on the bilges, however.

Why not just bail out into buckets? Grab an assortment of different sized containers to get into nooks and crannies. A good chance to get to know your boat up close and personal

 

[rotrax]

Our boat has a proper deep bilge, the air conditioning condesate, green water from the anchor locker plus anything that gets down the keel stepped mast and past the stuffing box all end up in it. The large electric pump and the hand pump only clear it to a certain level.

I have a large sponge on a metre and a half of cord and a poking stick. This dries the bilge perfectly-I estimate I get about a gallon- and it remains dry untill we take green water over the bow.

We did not require the air conditioning this year in Ireland and Scotland...........................

 

[Tranona]

The Pela is a good bit of kit and will remove the oily water from your bilge. One advantage is that it is relatively clean to use as the fluid is contained in the tank which you can then take to the disposal point or decant into a larger container. you can also use it to extract the oil from your engine when you change it if you cannot use a sump drain.

When you have most of the fluid out of the bilge the absorbent pads will take up most of the rest. You will then need to use a cleaner such as Bilgex to remove oil residue from the surface. Getting an oily bilge clean enough to paint is a real challenge as oil is very difficult to remove from either wood or GRP.

 

[Chris_Robb]

The Pela is a good bit of kit and will remove the oily water from your bilge. One advantage is that it is relatively clean to use as the fluid is contained in the tank which you can then take to the disposal point or decant into a larger container. you can also use it to extract the oil from your engine when you change it if you cannot use a sump drain.

When you have most of the fluid out of the bilge the absorbent pads will take up most of the rest. You will then need to use a cleaner such as Bilgex to remove oil residue from the surface. Getting an oily bilge clean enough to paint is a real challenge as oil is very difficult to remove from either wood or GRP.

I have used my Pela (the large one) to suck out the bilges. BUT any solids even Very small, will block it, so if it is very dirty down there with rust flakes the Pela is not the one.

So I would get one of those pumps to stick on the end of a drill and pump out into a container. such as this - very cheap so dont worry about the effects of oil on it. But you can find slightly more expensive ones which can take oil. Just Google Drill powered Pump

eg http://www.transtools.co.uk/accesso...drill-powered-water-pump-1500-litres-per-hour

Get a large Pela pump anyway as you will find it invaluable for doing clean oil changes, and once the bilge is clean, for sucking water out.


To get the bilges clean after the initial suck out, use a detergent and then go sailing to let it slop around the bilges for a bit - then it all sucks out nicely. Finally some nice smelling bathroom cleaner to kill the manky smell of diesel. I bet you have a Perkins 4236 in her!

 

[Sinbad1951]

I dont recommend the large Pela cylinder shaped pump. It has some steel pieces under the lid which will rust through in time and seem impossible to fix. After mine failed I replaced it with the smaller round ball Pela pump which is excellent and all plastic. The tubes which are supplied with the unit are two sizes and the smaller diameter one is designed to go inside a dip stick hole. I made up an extension piece for the larger diameter tube using 10mm copper pipe and joined the two tube pieces with a small open close valve. This way you can close the valve, depressurise the pump and then poke the end of the tube into a suitable water hole and open the valve....hey presto it sucks away and you dont have to pump and point one handed.

 

[lw395]

You want to scoop as much oil off the top of the water as you can, not suck the water from under it so it sticks to the bilge as it's exposed.
I'd avoid using the wet vac, the hose will hold oil and smell for months to come.
Have lots of cans to let the oily water separate, I seem to end up with a line of them behind the shed sometimes.
Once you have the bilge mostly dry, cream cleaner like cif/jif is good IMHO on greasy mess.
Pela is pretty good, wide bore tube with valve a good idea. There are cheap alternatives about.

 

[Plum]

I have used my Pela (the large one) to suck out the bilges. BUT any solids even Very small, will block it, so if it is very dirty down there with rust flakes the Pela is not the one.

So I would get one of those pumps to stick on the end of a drill and pump out into a container. such as this - very cheap so dont worry about the effects of oil on it. But you can find slightly more expensive ones which can take oil. Just Google Drill powered Pump

eg http://www.transtools.co.uk/accesso...drill-powered-water-pump-1500-litres-per-hour

Get a large Pela pump anyway as you will find it invaluable for doing clean oil changes, and once the bilge is clean, for sucking water out.


To get the bilges clean after the initial suck out, use a detergent and then go sailing to let it slop around the bilges for a bit - then it all sucks out nicely. Finally some nice smelling bathroom cleaner to kill the manky smell of diesel. I bet you have a Perkins 4236 in her!

I too would use a drill pump to remove most of the oil and crud. That is a good price, Chris, as I bought one of these last year http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXTRA-HEA...975165?hash=item27dbf4c17d:g:zdEAAOxyVLNSqXxV and use it with my Makita 18v drill and 1/2inch garden hose for oil changes. Also used it to suck for crud from the bottom of my fuel tank lower than the normal pickup level. A very versatile pump.

Colin. Www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk

 

[Chris_Robb]

I too would use a drill pump to remove most of the oil and crud. That is a good price, Chris, as I bought one of these last year http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXTRA-HEA...975165?hash=item27dbf4c17d:g:zdEAAOxyVLNSqXxV and use it with my Makita 18v drill and 1/2inch garden hose for oil changes. Also used it to suck for crud from the bottom of my fuel tank lower than the normal pickup level. A very versatile pump.

Colin. Www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk

You must have a drill that can run at least at 1500 rpm - My battery drill would not do the job as it was not fast enough.

 

[lw395]

You must have a drill that can run at least at 1500 rpm - My battery drill would not do the job as it was not fast enough.

I don't have that exact model, but most of these are impeller pumps, mine seems to go OK with a basic cordless drill.

 

[rogerthebodger]

I would add some engine degreaser to the bulge mix it up the suck it out with a wet and dry vacuum cleaner. Pumps may be damaged by and hard debris that is also in the bilge.