Offshore with a dinghy

Suggest you read post#15 and you will see that is not possible.

Buying an inflatable is not exactly beyond the means of most people going long distance.
But it's really perhaps a risk-assessment issue for the passages involved.
 
Hi all, thank you all for the responses. To answer the points that have been raised, the boat is a 44 Bruce Roberts, the dinghy is a 3m hardbotton, so can't be deflated and stowed, however I wouldn't leave either the engine or fuel tank abord it when on the davits. And on the foredeck I have a hoyt boom.

On the back of a boat like that you are not likely to get a big wave over the stern & if you did it would push the dinghy upwards before it filled it so you would likely be Ok. However, if you do have doubts, & the fact that you asked the question suggests that you might, then the simple answer is to leave the rigid at home & purchase an inflatable so you can stick it below.
You cannot easily stow a rigid anywhere else unless you can deflate the tubes & put it upside down on the coachroof. But then it would possibly foul the tent if you have one. Can you deflate the tubes, put straps round it to keep it flat, possibly with a couple of battens as well, & stow it on the davits but tight to the transom on its edge
 
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Buying an inflatable is not exactly beyond the means of most people going long distance.
But it's really perhaps a risk-assessment issue for the passages involved.

Exactly to the second sentence. If the OP is headed for the Caribbean for example he will be grateful for his 3m hard bottom dinghy. What he is proposing is nothing out of the ordinary if you look at it from that perspective. The issue is how to do it as safely as possible.
 
Can't do that with a RIB (AB/Caribe type). Lashed down (inverted) on foredeck worked for me - never used my davits in open water.

Talking about unsuspected weather. This is actually on my mooring in a sheltered bay:
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Lasted only a few seconds, but my weather station registered 91 knots. BTW; I still have the dinghy :encouragement:. On the open, you never know what will hit you. A really well secured dinghy on the davits is a sure way how to lose the davits or the whole transom one of these days. Sure, it will be O.K. in 99% of times...
 
Exactly to the second sentence. If the OP is headed for the Caribbean for example he will be grateful for his 3m hard bottom dinghy. What he is proposing is nothing out of the ordinary if you look at it from that perspective. The issue is how to do it as safely as possible.

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I wouldn't countenance any alternative but to have our 2.6m ally bottom tender on the davits where it lives 24/7. However, for long offshore passages it is carried upside down so it can't take on any water. It is also lashed to the davits so it can't swing around. The outboard is, off course, stowed on the pushpit.

Richard
 
It seems to be a polarised response, I would be fine 9 times out of ten but its the one occasion that is going to be important!

Ill look into removing or adapting the hoyt boom, although its more likely to mean removal removal.

Im headed to the Sea of Cortez and the Pacific so really need a solid hull on the dinghy rather than soft bottomed, so being able to pack it up is really not an option.
 
You will be carrying a liferaft in the hope that you never need it. Same goes for other precautions like securing the dinghy.... you will hope it wont actually be necessary but, if it is........
 
>Deflate the dingy and store below, I even do this on a cross channel. Why put up with all that extra windage.

Long distance sailing it's best to keep the dinghy on deck in case you need it, which we did.
 
Suggest you read post#15 and you will see that is not possible.
The OP needs to re-think the problem and the solution.

>Deflate the dingy and store below, I even do this on a cross channel. Why put up with all that extra windage.

Long distance sailing it's best to keep the dinghy on deck in case you need it, which we did.
Oh do tell more, why did you need it? I am sure it was not to pop off to get an ice cream or go to the mid atlantic ridge bar. :D
 
The OP needs to re-think the problem and the solution.

Why do you think that? As I said earlier, what he is proposing is nothing out of the ordinary. Many people sail long distance with dinghies, particularly RIBs on davits because the RIB is the appropriate tender for their boat and the locations they intend visiting. He has a big enough and robust enough boat for carrying a dinghy in this way to be feasible, but he needs to work how to minimise the possibility of it becoming a problem in extreme weather. Some suggestions have already been made of ways to do this.

As usual there needs to be compromise, so the personal choice is to whether it is better to run the (small?) risk of such damage or have a sub optimal tender for the periods spent at anchor. Looking at his proposed itinerary I would guess having a 3m RIB as a tender would be high priority.
 
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The OP needs to re-think the problem and the solution.


Oh do tell more, why did you need it? I am sure it was not to pop off to get an ice cream or go to the mid atlantic ridge bar. :D

MOB, easy quick deployment may be easier to get someone on a dingy if there is only two or three on a boat. No room in boat to store dinghy.
 
As usual there needs to be compromise, so the personal choice is to whether it is better to run the (small?) risk of such damage or have a sub optimal tender for the periods spent at anchor. Looking at his proposed itinerary I would guess having a 3m RIB as a tender would be high priority.

There are of course folding RIBs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3smev5i8iw
 
Why do you think that? As I said earlier, what he is proposing is nothing out of the ordinary. Many people sail long distance with dinghies, particularly RIBs on davits because the RIB is the appropriate tender for their boat and the locations they intend visiting. He has a big enough and robust enough boat for carrying a dinghy in this way to be feasible, but he needs to work how to minimise the possibility of it becoming a problem in extreme weather. Some suggestions have already been made of ways to do this.

As usual there needs to be compromise, so the personal choice is to whether it is better to run the (small?) risk of such damage or have a sub optimal tender for the periods spent at anchor. Looking at his proposed itinerary I would guess having a 3m RIB as a tender would be high priority.
Indeed compromises are all part of the fun of sailing.
 
Could you mount it on top of the davits upside down? Won't take on water, further from catching a wave and can strap it down, still a bit of windage no doubt
 
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