Koeketiene
Well-Known Member
Same here - received new liftime one a week ago.
Did not even have to ask for it.
Did not even have to ask for it.
Ofcom again!!!!!!!!!
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Cutter
Well-Known Member
Wots this licence thingy?
Thot you could just get on blower and chat away - cant you?
Wondered why some official bloke shouted at me when i was yaking on 16
one lives and learns /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Thot you could just get on blower and chat away - cant you?
Wondered why some official bloke shouted at me when i was yaking on 16
one lives and learns /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Ariadne
Well-Known Member
The OFCOM website is a shambles! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I have tried toregister 3-4 times now so I can ammend my licence, but to no avail. I did however phone them up and complain about the site, I also got them to allow me to register my changes by letter. So good of them! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
I have tried toregister 3-4 times now so I can ammend my licence, but to no avail. I did however phone them up and complain about the site, I also got them to allow me to register my changes by letter. So good of them! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Sybarite
Well-Known Member
"...As I understand the rules of the game, as a French resident you are not entitled to fly a Red Enign on the boat you own and should in fact register it under the French flag. I have heard of British ciotizens who are resident over there being chased and prosecuted by the French authorities for not re-registering a boat they kept in France...."
I have been questionned on the subject nearly every year now by the Douane. One told me I was going to have a very fine. I simply asked him why he had a different view from that of his head office.
When I bought the boat as a resident in France I was told specifically that I could not obtain an "acte de francisation" as a boat does not have a nationality, only its owner has. Foreign residents had to have a "passeport" and the boat had to wear the owner's national flag. The boats must pay the same taxes but where I was at a disadvantage was that when I wanted the "Affaiirs Maritimes" to certify the boat as being suitable for charter they refused on the grounds of the flag and local charterers wouldn't touch it without the certificate. On the other hand they said that I did not have to comply with the stringent safety requirements of French flagged boats eg annual servicing of liferafts.
One custom's man insisted that as a British-flagged boat I should have a UK registration. I told him :-
- I already paid for registration in France (as a foreign resident) and I was damned if I was going to submit to the discriminatory costs of double registration.
- SSR only applies to UK residents and not citizens.
- Full registration implied physically taking the boat to a UK port for measurement and examination and that he could not insist on me doing this.
He told me that he was going to check back with his hierarchy and come back to me the following day. I never heard from him again.
I ntook the opportunity of visiting the Douane stand at the Salon nautique and explaining the situation. They agreed that my position was correct and that there was often a lot of confusion on the subject among the members of the Douane themselves eg one told me that the rules had changed recently and that my boat should now have a French flag. On checking this was found to not be so.
When I see posts stating that boat owners have been fined I believe that many of these are incorrect and could have been challenged. For example I saw some one who had a fine because he was not able to produce a VAT receipt. Well I'm sorry I don't go sailing with my accounting records nor do I ever bring a VAT receipt for my car when I change borders with it. For me this flies in the face of free movement of people and goods. Where they do have a point is if people charter their boats in French waters in which case they are competing with locals who are subject to taxes on the activity.
Ayway it pisse me off to be sytematicaly checked - you can see them homing in. They are nearly all very polite though.
John.
I have been questionned on the subject nearly every year now by the Douane. One told me I was going to have a very fine. I simply asked him why he had a different view from that of his head office.
When I bought the boat as a resident in France I was told specifically that I could not obtain an "acte de francisation" as a boat does not have a nationality, only its owner has. Foreign residents had to have a "passeport" and the boat had to wear the owner's national flag. The boats must pay the same taxes but where I was at a disadvantage was that when I wanted the "Affaiirs Maritimes" to certify the boat as being suitable for charter they refused on the grounds of the flag and local charterers wouldn't touch it without the certificate. On the other hand they said that I did not have to comply with the stringent safety requirements of French flagged boats eg annual servicing of liferafts.
One custom's man insisted that as a British-flagged boat I should have a UK registration. I told him :-
- I already paid for registration in France (as a foreign resident) and I was damned if I was going to submit to the discriminatory costs of double registration.
- SSR only applies to UK residents and not citizens.
- Full registration implied physically taking the boat to a UK port for measurement and examination and that he could not insist on me doing this.
He told me that he was going to check back with his hierarchy and come back to me the following day. I never heard from him again.
I ntook the opportunity of visiting the Douane stand at the Salon nautique and explaining the situation. They agreed that my position was correct and that there was often a lot of confusion on the subject among the members of the Douane themselves eg one told me that the rules had changed recently and that my boat should now have a French flag. On checking this was found to not be so.
When I see posts stating that boat owners have been fined I believe that many of these are incorrect and could have been challenged. For example I saw some one who had a fine because he was not able to produce a VAT receipt. Well I'm sorry I don't go sailing with my accounting records nor do I ever bring a VAT receipt for my car when I change borders with it. For me this flies in the face of free movement of people and goods. Where they do have a point is if people charter their boats in French waters in which case they are competing with locals who are subject to taxes on the activity.
Ayway it pisse me off to be sytematicaly checked - you can see them homing in. They are nearly all very polite though.
John.
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"...As I understand the rules of the game, as a French resident you are not entitled to fly a Red Enign on the boat you own and should in fact register it under the French flag. I have heard of British ciotizens who are resident over there being chased and prosecuted by the French authorities for not re-registering a boat they kept in France...."
I have been questionned on the subject nearly every year now by the Douane. One told me I was going to have a very fine. I simply asked him why he had a different view from that of his head office.
When I bought the boat as a resident in France I was told specifically that I could not obtain an "acte de francisation" as a boat does not have a nationality, only its owner has. Foreign residents had to have a "passeport" and the boat had to wear the owner's national flag. The boats must pay the same taxes but where I was at a disadvantage was that when I wanted the "Affaiirs Maritimes" to certify the boat as being suitable for charter they refused on the grounds of the flag and local charterers wouldn't touch it without the certificate. On the other hand they said that I did not have to comply with the stringent safety requirements of French flagged boats eg annual servicing of liferafts.
One custom's man insisted that as a British-flagged boat I should have a UK registration. I told him :-
- I already paid for registration in France (as a foreign resident) and I was damned if I was going to submit to the discriminatory costs of double registration.
- SSR only applies to UK residents and not citizens.
- Full registration implied physically taking the boat to a UK port for measurement and examination and that he could not insist on me doing this.
He told me that he was going to check back with his hierarchy and come back to me the following day. I never heard from him again.
I ntook the opportunity of visiting the Douane stand at the Salon nautique and explaining the situation. They agreed that my position was correct and that there was often a lot of confusion on the subject among the members of the Douane themselves eg one told me that the rules had changed recently and that my boat should now have a French flag. On checking this was found to not be so.
When I see posts stating that boat owners have been fined I believe that many of these are incorrect and could have been challenged. For example I saw some one who had a fine because he was not able to produce a VAT receipt. Well I'm sorry I don't go sailing with my accounting records nor do I ever bring a VAT receipt for my car when I change borders with it. For me this flies in the face of free movement of people and goods. Where they do have a point is if people charter their boats in French waters in which case they are competing with locals who are subject to taxes on the activity.
Ayway it pisse me off to be sytematicaly checked - you can see them homing in. They are nearly all very polite though.
John.
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Good for you mate ...
I am a British Citizen. I am resident in Latvia. I have two boats here in Latvia both SSR registered. I am not obliged to follow Latvian Rules as regards the Boats themselves. But I am required to have a "Boat Drivers Licence" for inland waters. Once I get back into Port waters etc. - I am free as a Brit to have all or nothing in way of Licence for me. All I need is the SSR doc.
"...As I understand the rules of the game, as a French resident you are not entitled to fly a Red Enign on the boat you own and should in fact register it under the French flag. I have heard of British ciotizens who are resident over there being chased and prosecuted by the French authorities for not re-registering a boat they kept in France...."
I have been questionned on the subject nearly every year now by the Douane. One told me I was going to have a very fine. I simply asked him why he had a different view from that of his head office.
When I bought the boat as a resident in France I was told specifically that I could not obtain an "acte de francisation" as a boat does not have a nationality, only its owner has. Foreign residents had to have a "passeport" and the boat had to wear the owner's national flag. The boats must pay the same taxes but where I was at a disadvantage was that when I wanted the "Affaiirs Maritimes" to certify the boat as being suitable for charter they refused on the grounds of the flag and local charterers wouldn't touch it without the certificate. On the other hand they said that I did not have to comply with the stringent safety requirements of French flagged boats eg annual servicing of liferafts.
One custom's man insisted that as a British-flagged boat I should have a UK registration. I told him :-
- I already paid for registration in France (as a foreign resident) and I was damned if I was going to submit to the discriminatory costs of double registration.
- SSR only applies to UK residents and not citizens.
- Full registration implied physically taking the boat to a UK port for measurement and examination and that he could not insist on me doing this.
He told me that he was going to check back with his hierarchy and come back to me the following day. I never heard from him again.
I ntook the opportunity of visiting the Douane stand at the Salon nautique and explaining the situation. They agreed that my position was correct and that there was often a lot of confusion on the subject among the members of the Douane themselves eg one told me that the rules had changed recently and that my boat should now have a French flag. On checking this was found to not be so.
When I see posts stating that boat owners have been fined I believe that many of these are incorrect and could have been challenged. For example I saw some one who had a fine because he was not able to produce a VAT receipt. Well I'm sorry I don't go sailing with my accounting records nor do I ever bring a VAT receipt for my car when I change borders with it. For me this flies in the face of free movement of people and goods. Where they do have a point is if people charter their boats in French waters in which case they are competing with locals who are subject to taxes on the activity.
Ayway it pisse me off to be sytematicaly checked - you can see them homing in. They are nearly all very polite though.
John.
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Good for you mate ...
I am a British Citizen. I am resident in Latvia. I have two boats here in Latvia both SSR registered. I am not obliged to follow Latvian Rules as regards the Boats themselves. But I am required to have a "Boat Drivers Licence" for inland waters. Once I get back into Port waters etc. - I am free as a Brit to have all or nothing in way of Licence for me. All I need is the SSR doc.
landaftaf
Well-Known Member
its a game, frogs on the whole like to goad 'les roastbeef' ........ and their customs are in a position to subtly show it (like les flic when driving) surely you have noticed /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
