Ocean Cruising Club member’s yacht types

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It is often asked here what type of yacht should I buy for long distance sailing.This is an update list of some member’s boats:

Nicholson 45
Contest 43
Moody 42
Gitana 43
Rival 41
Morris Justine 36
Waquiez 46
Jenneau Legend 41
Catalac 41
Nicholson 35
Malo 42
Rustler 36
Bowman 57
Amel 54
Bowman 40
Warrior 40
Colin Archer 39
Nordsea 47
Pogo 34
Robertson cutter 42
Hinckley Souwester42
Rebel 41
Fraser cutter 41
Shannon Pilothouse cutter 38
Halberg Rassy 42
Pocock 42
Oyster 43
Oyster 435
Perterson 36
Westerly Discus 33
Halberg Rassy 35
S&S 40
Luder 36
Nicholson 35
Swan ketch 43
Westerley Oceanlord 41
Peterson 44

These were taken from the logs published in the OCC’s Newsletter and are from yachts all around the world, the range of the boats size, makes and age is interesting. One that caught my eye because it is a very pretty boat was the Morris Justine 36 : https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=M...X21oLPAhUkCcAKHVTaC8gQsAQIJQ&biw=1920&bih=940
 
Doesn't that say a lot more about the age and membership of the OCC than a reflection on the majority of boats actually crusing the oceans?
 
mattonthesea said:
Rival - full stop :)

Blue water is the only reason to own one :D
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Very well put! Trouble is some people buy "bluewater" boats with no intention of actually going, when there are probably many other boats far more suited to their actual use.

Can't stop dreams, though.
 
Nothing less than 34 feet long in the list. So famous yachts like the Hiscocks' 'Wanderer III' 30ft.; Ian Major's 'Buttercup' 25ft; David Lewis's 'Cardinal Vertue' 25ft; Leng's 'Driac II' 32ft; R.D.Graham's 'Emanuel' 30ft; W.D.King's 'Galway Blazer' 31ft; J.Cunningham's 'Ice Bird' 26ft; H.G.Hasler's 'Jester' 25ft; Vito Dumas's 'Lehg II' 31ft; Pyes' 'Moonraker' 29ft; Hamilton's 'Salmo' 25ft; Ellam's 'Sopranino' 20ft; Robinson's 'Svaap' 33ft; John Guzwell's 'Trekka' 21ft; W.Howell's 'Wanderer II' 24ft; et al, would be very unrepresentative.
 
If the membership is anything like other similar interest-clubs, it will be heavily biassed to those who, have in the past cruised, rather than those starting.
In support of other posters: when I started cruising in 1972, 26' long boat was considered "big".
Now, in the Med, a 34' is small and 45' commonplace.
Of course the Med is not typical of world cruising.
This escalation in length of "median" boat has an interesting collateral. There is a big, berth-cost-jump @ 12m and many, quite recent, marinas have insufficient manoeuvring room for these "big boats". Many marinas, in the E Med, now provide RIBs as tugs to berth boats.
 
KellysEye said:
I've just received Berthon's September small book of yachts for sale, the most interesting one is a Nicholson 40 AC yawl with a price of £49,950.
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My Rival 41C was less than that, in full commission, back in 2008. However, I have spent just over half of that, not quite 2/3 in the years on various works. Hence, the headline price is not a realistic measure of the major overhead. It is likely that serious work will be required. I guess you know all this anyway. A big chunk of cash has been spent on yard fees to finish off the refit. It was simply taking me too long, I planned for 2 seasons and got to 3 seasons, so I bit the bullet, commissioned her, and sailed her to a yard where she is just about finished - but at a price. I am OK with that as I can afford it but this is the reason why these boats are really a liability for those who think they are onto a low cost dream - no way.

As for coastal sailing, great boat, solid performance, comfortable and roomy at 6 up. She goes well in light airs but I need a big goatser to do that. Hopefully, I can collect her this month and take her to the marina for some winter sailing.
 
parsifal said:
Nothing less than 34 feet long in the list. So famous yachts like the Hiscocks' 'Wanderer III' 30ft.; Ian Major's 'Buttercup' 25ft; David Lewis's 'Cardinal Vertue' 25ft; Leng's 'Driac II' 32ft; R.D.Graham's 'Emanuel' 30ft; W.D.King's 'Galway Blazer' 31ft; J.Cunningham's 'Ice Bird' 26ft; H.G.Hasler's 'Jester' 25ft; Vito Dumas's 'Lehg II' 31ft; Pyes' 'Moonraker' 29ft; Hamilton's 'Salmo' 25ft; Ellam's 'Sopranino' 20ft; Robinson's 'Svaap' 33ft; John Guzwell's 'Trekka' 21ft; W.Howell's 'Wanderer II' 24ft; et al, would be very unrepresentative.
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Ahem! There's a Discus (33') in the list, IF you don't mind! :) Brilliant boat as well, not that I'm at all biased!
 
parsifal said:
Nothing less than 34 feet long in the list. So famous yachts like the Hiscocks' 'Wanderer III' 30ft.; Ian Major's 'Buttercup' 25ft; David Lewis's 'Cardinal Vertue' 25ft; Leng's 'Driac II' 32ft; R.D.Graham's 'Emanuel' 30ft; W.D.King's 'Galway Blazer' 31ft; J.Cunningham's 'Ice Bird' 26ft; H.G.Hasler's 'Jester' 25ft; Vito Dumas's 'Lehg II' 31ft; Pyes' 'Moonraker' 29ft; Hamilton's 'Salmo' 25ft; Ellam's 'Sopranino' 20ft; Robinson's 'Svaap' 33ft; John Guzwell's 'Trekka' 21ft; W.Howell's 'Wanderer II' 24ft; et al, would be very unrepresentative.
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Except the Discus
 
>I've just received Berthon's September small book of yachts for sale, the most interesting one is a Nicholson 40 AC yawl with a price of £49,950.

>> Hence, the headline price is not a realistic measure of the major overhead. It is likely that serious work will be required. I guess you know all this anyway.

Yes that's what I thought but a great long distance boat when ready to go. I've always liked two masted boats because of the sail options and they look nice, we had a ketch, but none are built now because of the increased cost it's a real shame.
 
parsifal said:
Nothing less than 34 feet long in the list. So famous yachts like the Hiscocks' 'Wanderer III' 30ft.; Ian Major's 'Buttercup' 25ft; David Lewis's 'Cardinal Vertue' 25ft; Leng's 'Driac II' 32ft; R.D.Graham's 'Emanuel' 30ft; W.D.King's 'Galway Blazer' 31ft; J.Cunningham's 'Ice Bird' 26ft; H.G.Hasler's 'Jester' 25ft; Vito Dumas's 'Lehg II' 31ft; Pyes' 'Moonraker' 29ft; Hamilton's 'Salmo' 25ft; Ellam's 'Sopranino' 20ft; Robinson's 'Svaap' 33ft; John Guzwell's 'Trekka' 21ft; W.Howell's 'Wanderer II' 24ft; et al, would be very unrepresentative.
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I have just spoken to the OCC Membership Secretary. He said that none of that lot had paid their subs for yonks.

P.S do you mean V Howells folk boat 'Eira'? :encouragement:
 
chinita said:
I have just spoken to the OCC Membership Secretary. He said that none of that lot had paid their subs for yonks.

P.S do you mean V Howells folk boat 'Eira'? :encouragement:
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I got the names from "Voyaging Under Sail" by Eric Hiscock. He was the first owner of 'Wanderer II' and W. Howells the second.

The point I was trying to make was how much larger cruising boats have become since the pioneering days. Presumably today's long-distance yachtsmen are wealthier and can afford larger boats.
 
parsifal said:
The point I was trying to make was how much larger cruising boats have become since the pioneering days. Presumably today's long-distance yachtsmen are wealthier and can afford larger boats.
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The long distance sailors who are members of the OCC certainly seem to have enough cash to get a biggish boat. Having a look at the wide and wonderful range of vessels on the hook around the popular anchorages would paint a more diverse picture :)
 
GHA said:
The long distance sailors who are members of the OCC certainly seem to have enough cash to get a biggish boat. Having a look at the wide and wonderful range of vessels on the hook around the popular anchorages would paint a more diverse picture :)
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As would looking at the entry list for the ARC, for example. The OCC is a rather UK centric organisation, so the choice of boats of members is not surprising. However, people who sail the oceans coming from other "traditions" may make different choices.

So, this list is no more representative of the overall ocean cruising community than any other list derived from a small self selecting sample.
 
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