Not the Royal Navy

[Metabarca]

Here's something the Royal Navy hasn't been able to do for quite a while, sadly.

 

[Metabarca]

PS Sorry about the music...

 

[lustyd]

Can’t see anything there the Royal Navy can’t do any time they like, other than perhaps the sunshine?

 

[justanothersailboat]

Unlike that navy, the Royal Navy CAN give you (a bucket of instant) sunshine any time they like.

But they don't have a tall ship for training. Should they? I'm in two minds but err on the side of yes.

 

[lustyd]

They might not have one for training but they have tall ships in commission which they could use if they choose to. I think our navy tends to focus on training that’s useful though. They do have a sail training fleet for learning to use sails, but that’s a leisure activity.

 

[justanothersailboat]

They might not have one for training but they have tall ships in commission

They do? sorry, possibly my error there.

Whether it's useful or not depends mostly on what you think those aboard are learning.

 

[capnsensible]

No point. Being at sea operating a modern warship is infinitely more important.

Tall ships? Nah. But there is the Adventurous Sail Traing Centre with yachts. This is a valuable resource for character development with young sailors, soldiers and airmen. There are too few people in the services as it is so adventurous training and leadership skills need careful management.

Been there, done it, got the hangovers.

 

[Bouba]

This is an interesting tale of when the Royal Navy was attacked by Canada...
A real can of worms

 

[lustyd]

Tall ships? Nah.

Victory is technically still in commission and is undergoing a refit. Warrior is still in seaworthy condition and does occasionally get taken out, although isn't in commission.

 

[justanothersailboat]

Warrior floats, but the engine is a dummy and I think the rig is representative rather than fully working too. She gets towed to a dry dock every so often for hull maintenance (and a chance to maintain her moorings) but does she ever move further than that?

Not a training ship anyway. I had the impression that the argument for training ships was to form young new starters into people used to being at sea, expanding their limits, and working as a crew... and to do it quickly and in large numbers... rather than specifically sailing skills. The tall ship sailing part just happens to be a good way to keep a lot of people busy at once. But for that to be worth the outlay you need a lot of recruits.

 

[lustyd]

Yes agree they have the sailing school for that, I was just pointing out the Navy does have such ships and if it chose to it could use them. I think most of us agree that would be a waste of time and money, although perhaps not as much as maintaining 1 1/2 aircraft carriers that seem mostly to be used to host events. PoW will probably be sold soon so we may have budget for a sail after all

 

[Bouba]

Yes agree they have the sailing school for that, I was just pointing out the Navy does have such ships and if it chose to it could use them. I think most of us agree that would be a waste of time and money, although perhaps not as much as maintaining 1 1/2 aircraft carriers that seem mostly to be used to host events. PoW will probably be sold soon so we may have budget for a sail after all

The accepted rule is for three carriers to be sure of having one always available…so to do it with two is an accomplishment…it’s done by having more of its upkeep done alongside rather than in dry dock. However, unlike the USN, the carriers aren’t expected to be at sea for long periods and away from home even longer

 

[lustyd]

We are selling one though so…

 

[Bouba]

We are selling one though so…

If there is further retrenchment after the independence birthday of the USA...I think they will keep two hulls...but only one crew and one flight wing. ie there will be two carriers but never two at the same time

 

[capnsensible]

We are selling one though so…

That will be news for the Government and the RN.........

 

[lustyd]

it was news in February, now its olds. PoW hasn`t been operationa for a long time, it was stripped for parts. QE is almost always in dock too having work done.

 

[Bouba]

it was news in February, now its olds. PoW hasn`t been operationa for a long time, it was stripped for parts. QE is almost always in dock too having work done.

Didn’t PoW just return from a huge NATO exercise up in the far north where she was the flagship ?

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Didn’t PoW just return from a huge NATO exercise up in the far north where she was the flagship ?

She has indeed. Stepped in at short notice as QE was unwell. A 3rd one has been ordered, it is said. Thanks to Mr Putin no doubt.

 

[Bouba]

She has indeed. Stepped in at short notice as QE was unwell. A 3rd one has been ordered, it is said. Thanks to Mr Putin no doubt.

The story of a third hull was a April fools article that just keeps getting recycled

 

[capnsensible]

it was news in February, now its olds. PoW hasn`t been operationa for a long time, it was stripped for parts. QE is almost always in dock too having work done.

Dunno where you get your news from. I could post you links to disprove all of that, but then it would be bye bye thread.....