Noobie question about rough waters

Im not sure what that means.
It has a bilge pump with a float switch if thats what you mean.

In fact thanks to a small leak thats the only thing that stops it from sinking in the slip where it is now :eek:
 
I take it there are dedicated picnic & barbie sites at various points along the shore? In the UK, the lakes are much smaller & all the banks tend to be privately owned or car parks, so picnic opportunities are rare.
 
The Major is asking whether the boat has a self draining deck, or is the cockpit floor above the water line, so any water shipped aboard will run out scuppers/freeing ports (holes in the side or stern).

Looking at the topside height, I don't think so.
 
Yes. Wot he said.

My boat, a 21 foot Beneteau Antares has a self draining cockpit, so any water that comes inboard drains out of rear scuppers. Really handy on those rough days and was very helpful when I first started boating and broached the boat - turned sideways to the waves and was pushed over. Now that was a quick learning curve. :eek:

Searush, I think he knows about 'our' lakes as he is a Brit. ;)
 
Lakes have specific problems. They tend to whip up quick, with short steep waves, very close together. I think it is to do with the relatively short fetch & shallow water (compared to oceans or seas). Condition also tend to change very quickly on lakes compared to open sea, and the winds are mmore variable.
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Exactly what I was going to say. Also, when it blows up the water doesn't seem to have a clear direction of movement so it just seems choppy.

Nice pix, SH: I never knew that that sort of hull was called what you called it.
 
I'm based on Lough Derg in Ireland, and as noted here, things can be quite variable.

ranging from this...
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to this...
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Actually, conditions on the day of the second shot got considerably worse once further down the lake, but there was no-one around to take a picture then :-)
 
BGW said:
I'm based on Lough Derg in Ireland, and as noted here, things can be quite variable.
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Brian, I had seen your rough weather pic on another site and thought while reading the OP, that it would illustrate perfectly how sh#te conditions can get on lakes. When on Lough Derg or Lough Ree, I always keep an eye on the forecast. Would love to have seen a pic from Parker Point the day Pic 2 was taken!
I will be on Derg this weekend, and looking at the forecast we won't have Pic 1 conditions but we won't have pic 2 conditions either. So looking forward to a nice trip.

Mick
 
Shannoner said:
Brian, I had seen your rough weather pic on another site and thought while reading the OP, that it would illustrate perfectly how sh#te conditions can get on lakes. When on Lough Derg or Lough Ree, I always keep an eye on the forecast. Would love to have seen a pic from Parker Point the day Pic 2 was taken!
I will be on Derg this weekend, and looking at the forecast we won't have Pic 1 conditions but we won't have pic 2 conditions either. So looking forward to a nice trip.

Mick
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Haha Mick, so would I. :D

For the benefit of the other readers...
It was blowing force 6 to 7, gusting 8 and Parker Point is renown for it's appalling conditions in strong winds. (it's about 130ft deep in that area)

To honest, it was so rough, it was all I could do to hang onto the wheel,
I had gallons of water being thrown up and through the underneath of the canopy.
There was no way you could take pictures in those conditions, and I would think twice about going out in them again.
 
I really dont know about English Lakes TBH

Sailing with a friend in a Merlin Rocket at Henley was about all my experience on the water in England
 
Searush said:
Thank you, but I knew that, I was trying to put the question in context for our colonial cousins.
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Excuse me Mr. Searush....:) Some of your colonial cousins do have quite vast lake systems (albiet man made, hydro) and being in amongst the roaring forties, have seen the odd windy day...

but thats OK...we know everything is bigger, better and blows harder in Britain....I'll just sit back and take it all in..:D
 
AndieMac said:
Excuse me Mr. Searush....:) Some of your colonial cousins do have quite vast lake systems (albiet man made, hydro) and being in amongst the roaring forties, have seen the odd windy day...

but thats OK...we know everything is bigger, better and blows harder in Britain....I'll just sit back and take it all in..:D
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Please keep up at the back. For your penance, please re-read the relevant post. Then you wll realise that I was commenting on the lack of suitable landing places for picnics/ barbies etc in UK. :mad:

My limited experience (in Florida) was of a lake with many public beaches with barbies set-up, easy landing, public loos & general facilities for boaters to have a good time. In Palau (S Pacific/ China Sea) they have islands set aside for boaters with picnic tables, barbies & sunshades. In UK you get "Private - Keep Off" signs or carparks. Similarly, access to rivers is largely discouraged except for a few Navigational rivers where one must be licenced to use them. :(
 
Searush said:
Please keep up at the back. For your penance, please re-read the relevant post. Then you wll realise that I was commenting on the lack of suitable landing places for picnics/ barbies etc in UK. :mad:

My limited experience (in Florida) was of a lake with many public beaches with barbies set-up, easy landing, public loos & general facilities for boaters to have a good time. In Palau (S Pacific/ China Sea) they have islands set aside for boaters with picnic tables, barbies & sunshades. In UK you get "Private - Keep Off" signs or carparks. Similarly, access to rivers is largely discouraged except for a few Navigational rivers where one must be licenced to use them. :(
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Its OK, I'm still getting over the effect of the recent full-moon.....;-)

I guess we (locals) take things for granted too much with good ramps, shore-side facilities and no cost for launching.
We pay the equivalent of 25 quid per annum for boat rego, which is ploughed straight back into facilities, via a series of public meetings and proposals. A really well managed system.
 
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Kawasaki said:
Whahhh?
It bleedin should do!
I need to come over and sort it (I worked for Jeep for 12 years:))

I don't need any Payement
All expenses will do!;)
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Its a gutless slow pig, really even without the extra load.
AND its the I6 4.0 liter! Must be the big tires I guess but its a dog, hard to maintain 50mph on the hills on the interstates :confused:
 
Searush said:
Please keep up at the back. For your penance, please re-read the relevant post. Then you wll realise that I was commenting on the lack of suitable landing places for picnics/ barbies etc in UK. :mad:

My limited experience (in Florida) was of a lake with many public beaches with barbies set-up, easy landing, public loos & general facilities for boaters to have a good time. In Palau (S Pacific/ China Sea) they have islands set aside for boaters with picnic tables, barbies & sunshades. In UK you get "Private - Keep Off" signs or carparks. Similarly, access to rivers is largely discouraged except for a few Navigational rivers where one must be licenced to use them. :(
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And in Oz.

This is a purpose built state of the art slipway at the Roseville Bridge in North Sydney.

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Besides the brand new pontoon there are car and trailer washdown points and three stone fish cleaning sinks with running water. Plus about thirty picnic tables and BBQ's where they even provide dead wood. This is in a city!!!!!!
 
I suspected as much. However - PLEASE NOTE all pro-regulation people;

I would happily pay £25 a year for a licence if it provided slipways, jetties, dinghy mooring, picnic sites & barbie areas around our coast like that!

However, It is much more likely to go straight into the treasury & dissappear. The Seahorse Protection "No-Anchoring" brigade & the "Get off my land" owners are far more likely to prevail - especially if we get the Con-servatives in!

So it goes, our law-makers have been land owners for so long that the requirements of the average Joe are completely ignored.
 
Major Catastrophe said:
And in Oz.

This is a purpose built state of the art slipway at the Roseville Bridge in North Sydney.

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Besides the brand new pontoon there are car and trailer washdown points and three stone fish cleaning sinks with running water. Plus about thirty picnic tables and BBQ's where they even provide dead wood. This is in a city!!!!!!
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My favourites (because we have a 4 metre tidal variation) are the drained concrete ramp surfaces, as above, with a centrally located floating pontoon system which effectly divides the space in half, depending on the overall width.
The pontoon system is hinged off a raised, tapered concrete abuttment, in separate (again each piece hinged) 3 metre square sections laying the full length of the ramp and beyond.
As the tide floods and ebbs, only the pieces that are required to, actually float, the rest lays in the ramp, resembling a giant caterpillar. Construction is of thick walled poly, because of continual contact with the concrete, timber decked and massive D-rubber fendering.
They are built to a height (off the concrete) so you step directly from your gunwhale, while the boat is still on the trailer, to the pontoon decking. Perfect for single operator launching.

EDIT; On a 1 in 9 gradient, so your feet don't get wet as you release the trailer winch. ;-)
 
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