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[boatone]

….or is it possibly going to the wrong places for the wrong reasons?

You may like (or perhaps not) to consider the information below in the light of the recently declared £750k reduction in funding for EA Thames.

Canal & River Trust ‏@CanalRiverTrust
We've been awarded £2m from @ACE_National for art & events on Leeds & Liverpool canal - what would you like to see? Sculptures? Raft races?

ACE is Arts Council England

Between 2011 and 2015, we will invest £1.4 billion of public money from government and an estimated £1 billion from the National Lottery to help create these experiences for as many people as possible across the country. Government funding is received from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport and requirements are laid out in our funding agreement with them.

Grant recipient: Canal & River Trust
Other consortium members: Groundwork Pennine Lancashire Trust, APPL (Arts Partners in Pennine Lancashire) and Barnfield Construction Limited
Grant offer (over three years): £1,984,722
Places: Blackburn, Darwen, Burnley, Hyndburn and Pendle
This project in Pennine Lancashire will deliver innovative world-class arts on the Leeds and Liverpool Canal and adjacent waterways, through ambitious community collaborations and inspired by waterside communities responding to local and global themes. Artists and communities will engage in critical debate and local conversations, experimental arts projects, extraordinary events and international exchanges. They will re-awaken the cultural potential of the canals in Pennine Lancashire, exploring historic and contemporary links with waterside communities in countries such as Pakistan, India, Ireland and the Netherlands.

 

[Chris_d]

So does this mean if the Thames changed its status to a "charitable trust" as part of CaRT it opens up all sorts of potential new revenue streams?

 

[boatone]

So does this mean if the Thames changed its status to a "charitable trust" as part of CaRT it opens up all sorts of potential new revenue streams?

I am inclined to politely suggest that you have not been paying attention, Chris !

 

[dash300]

….or is it possibly going to the wrong places for the wrong reasons?

You may like (or perhaps not) to consider the information below in the light of the recently declared £750k reduction in funding for EA Thames.



ACE is Arts Council England


Grant recipient: Canal & River Trust
Other consortium members: Groundwork Pennine Lancashire Trust, APPL (Arts Partners in Pennine Lancashire) and Barnfield Construction Limited
Grant offer (over three years): £1,984,722
Places: Blackburn, Darwen, Burnley, Hyndburn and Pendle
This project in Pennine Lancashire will deliver innovative world-class arts on the Leeds and Liverpool Canal and adjacent waterways, through ambitious community collaborations and inspired by waterside communities responding to local and global themes. Artists and communities will engage in critical debate and local conversations, experimental arts projects, extraordinary events and international exchanges. They will re-awaken the cultural potential of the canals in Pennine Lancashire, exploring historic and contemporary links with waterside communities in countries such as Pakistan, India, Ireland and the Netherlands.

Not in the least surprised. Just another example of inappropriate use of tax payers money during testing times, as with many of overseas aid grants.
Deck chairs and sinking ship springs to mind.

 

[Chris_d]

I am inclined to politely suggest that you have not been paying attention, Chris !

I politely think you missed my point The EA presumably cannot apply for say a Lottery Grant to repair a Lock for navigation, but a charitable trust could apply to preserve a piece of Englands heritage, local conservation project blah, blah... which might just happen to be a lock.

 

[boatone]

I politely think you missed my point

Didn't miss your point at all. It's not that long ago I pointed out that the charitable trust can, for instance, raise money from bequests which the EA cannot do. The worry (concern) is that if the Thames does become part of the C&RT it will then be competing with the canal network and other rivers for a share of resources so there is no guarantee that funding will flow (pun intended) into the river.

 

[Chris_d]

Well there are no guarantees at the moment either... such is life.

If the Thames was declared a National Heritage Park or area of Outstanding beauty or such like, a minimum set of standards could be defined that had to be maintained to preserve it and a budget for CaRT or whoever defined.

 

[boatone]

Well there are no guarantees at the moment either... such is life.
If the Thames was declared a National Heritage Park or area of Outstanding beauty or such like, a minimum set of standards could be defined that had to be maintained to preserve it and a budget for CaRT or whoever defined.

Pigs, wings etc etc …. I can safely say that I will have long given up boating of any flavour before even the remotest possibility of a sustainable funding solution is agreed.

Oops, silly me - did I say agreed? Fat chance of anything being "agreed", much more likely that it will be "imposed".

 

[oldgit]

We need a formula to compare fundings .
ie. Pounds spend per linear mile of XXXXXXX navigation divided by number of boats using that particular waterway.
Interesting to compare an area having a lot of money spent on it regards upkeep/staff but with high passage of traffic against some drain up in the Midland with two boats year PA.

 

[dash300]

.......international exchanges. They will re-awaken the cultural potential of the canals in Pennine Lancashire, exploring historic and contemporary links with waterside communities in countries such as Pakistan, India,........

Anyone for a freebie cultural fact finding visits to exotic visits? Sticks hand in the air. My eldest idiot has been over in India for some time now and from his description of their waterborne culture there is very little we would want to bring back to introduce over here. However my favourite river dwellers might feel quite at home over there.

 

[Atolluk]

….or is it possibly going to the wrong places for the wrong reasons?

You may like (or perhaps not) to consider the information below in the light of the recently declared £750k reduction in funding for EA Thames.



ACE is Arts Council England


Grant recipient: Canal & River Trust
Other consortium members: Groundwork Pennine Lancashire Trust, APPL (Arts Partners in Pennine Lancashire) and Barnfield Construction Limited
Grant offer (over three years): £1,984,722
Places: Blackburn, Darwen, Burnley, Hyndburn and Pendle
This project in Pennine Lancashire will deliver innovative world-class arts on the Leeds and Liverpool Canal and adjacent waterways, through ambitious community collaborations and inspired by waterside communities responding to local and global themes. Artists and communities will engage in critical debate and local conversations, experimental arts projects, extraordinary events and international exchanges. They will re-awaken the cultural potential of the canals in Pennine Lancashire, exploring historic and contemporary links with waterside communities in countries such as Pakistan, India, Ireland and the Netherlands.

CRT needs to dispel the misconception to it's members and the boating community as to how and why it is being offered this £2m strategic arts funding. The money granted to Canal and River Trust NW is actually from ACE's Creative People and Places Fund and 'as it says on the tin' the clue to where that money is intended to go is simply in the fund's name. The money is a long-term endowment plan to invest in arts-and-communities, that will be spread over many years. The waterways are simply the linear thread connecting the diverse northern communities along this part of Pennine (east) Lancashire, and CRT the convenient single lead being asked to host the grant on behalf of it's many other joint partners. The money was a solicited grant offered-up by ACE in principle to a number of regional partnerships -but only if they could pull a joint business case together to use culture from the bottom-up to help strengthen and engage communities. CRT were a relatively recent incomer invited into this cultural partnership - not the originator or lead - and their late invitation to join was influenced the new (and national) Memorandum of Understanding agreed recently between CRT and ACE, and which places value on new cultural investment and partnerships. It is a mutually beneficial arrangement, and a similar one now exists with the Forestry Commission.

For any cultural skeptics still out there, the clear economic case for this type of 'arts for arts sake' investment is simply here in black and white - as produced by the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) for ACE: The contribution of the arts and culture to the national economy.