No doubling up at Fawley Meadow

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It seems the rowing clubs have complained about lack of width from the bank to the booms so no doubling up allowed.

After all our rich thick friends might crash in the back of a moored boat cos they don't look where they are going.

Boats were refused today and had to moor on the tow path side.

Wouldn't be so bad, but who put the flipping booms there in the first place!

Is it me?
 
Moored up with me on the outside above the bridge at Henley a year or two ago
Sculler hit my boat and then proceeded to whinge , saying it was my fault.

My retort was a nice smile but that he ought to save his breath for somebody who gave a **** :(
 
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apollo said:
It seems the rowing clubs have complained about lack of width from the bank to the booms so no doubling up allowed.

After all our rich thick friends might crash in the back of a moored boat cos they don't look where they are going.

Boats were refused today and had to moor on the tow path side.

Wouldn't be so bad, but who put the flipping booms there in the first place!

Is it me?
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apollo said:
Can't we lobby for these twats to pay their rightful share to the EA?
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Live and let live eh?

As long as it's you who is let to live, everyone else can eff off?
 
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Does everyone realise how little rowers/rowing clubs actually pay to use the river. I wonder?

I have just become aware of a new agreement between British Rowing and the EA which is, in effect, a bulk licensing scheme resulting in an almost 40% discount compared to the cost of a normal unpowered craft registration.
You can read the full agreement HERE but the important bits are as follows:

How much will licences cost?
The standard fee for 2011 EA licences will be £30.50 pa. Reduced price licences can only be obtained from British Rowing.

The 2011 fees for annual licences purchased from British Rowing are
EA based Clubs: Standard Licence £19.00
Non EA based Clubs: Standard Licence £12.00
All Clubs: Junior Licence £5.00
Coaching or/and safety launches: FREE of charge.

Also in the document:

The EA have emphasised that their objectives are
To ensure that all boats used in rowing, both unpowered and coaching/safety launches are licensed. (This is no change from the current position.)
To obtain a ‘cost neutral’ position on the total income collected from rowing. If the fees that have been fixed result in increased income for the EA, they have undertaken to work with British Rowing to use the excess income to benefit the sport. If they result in a reduction in income the overall charge would have to be re-negotiated.
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I am sure there are some here that will defend this concession on the grounds of encouraging sport. healthy bodies etc etc but we are not talking here about people who cannot afford to pay.

What we don't know is what the actual cost of this concession is in terms of lost revenue.

Wouldn't it be nice if the ATYC could arrange a similar bulk concession scheme for all member clubs ?
 
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I've always wondered if the rowers caused a problem and, say, didn't allow mooring at all at Fawley, (HRR owns the meadow) what if everybody started anchoring a little bit away from the bank? If you can anchor anywhere on the non-tidal Thames for 24 hours out of the fairway it would cause, at the very least, a lot of problems for the rowers.

If the response to a ban on double banking was to simply anchor 2' away, what could the rowers do about it?
 
They should pay based on their area sq m same as everyone else.
The EA are busy slapping stickers on every cruiser that they need a licence whilst this lot pay diddly squat.
 
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apollo said:
They should pay based on their area sq m same as everyone else.
The EA are busy slapping stickers on every cruiser that they need a licence whilst this lot pay diddly squat.
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Such a refreshing attitude to considered debate and social harmony :(

The standard EA rate for an unpowered craft is the same for all (excluding houseboats), regardless of size - £30.00 (interesting that the British Rowing document quotes £30.50?).
I find it very difficult to understand why they should deserve a near 40% discount on such a low standard charge - not to mention that they need not pay at all for coaching and safety craft.
 
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......perhaps unexpected when I pay £700 and the robos speak to one as if we were something they had just trodden in....

The basic argument here us that it is not fair, is it not?
 
apollo said:
The basic argument here us that it is not fair, is it not?
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Without knowing the background to the agreement with British Rowing, one can only assume they did an excellent job of fighting their corner.

How do you recover from such a position? Pretty difficult, I would say, to reverse something so recently implemented.

I will be making this a 'focus' issue for the TMBA as part of identifying who benefits from the river and whether or not they pay an equitable contribution.
 
''on anchor''rally...?

apollo said:
We or ATYC should hold an "on anchor" rally......
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hmmm.....I like that idea....right in the middle of Henley Regatta....full width of the Thames....maybe we could create an 'obstacle course' like Jeux Sans Frontieres......fancy dress....lots of publicity....

Time to polish the canon!
 
Spect the argument to be along the lines of encouraging young and therefore short of wonga type people to engage in healthy outdoor sports instead of watching slasher movies on an XBox(No idea what this is but it sounds streetwise).Think canoers go free if they belong to a national organisation.Mind you they seem to positively enjoy a little bit of wash every now and then.
Ps.There is no "Pound Shop" in Henley so no point in going there really.
 
Canoes/kayaks have to pay. Members of Canoe England (BCU) get registration through their membership. SWMBO plus son pay £108 per annum which includes their insurance.

They are also members of British rowing/ Walbrook RC. Obviously the boats are licensed through the club (annual membership..quite a bit!).
As noted elsewhere the "safety boat/coaching cat" is FOC.

Silver Dragon had her 2011 licence put on the windscreen on 28th December 2010.

I think this family is paying its way on the river.....
 
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The standard EA rate for an unpowered craft is the same for all (excluding houseboats), regardless of size - £30.00 (interesting that the British Rowing document quotes £30.50?).
I find it very difficult to understand why they should deserve a near 40% discount on such a low standard charge - not to mention that they need not pay at all for coaching and safety craft.
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Perhaps the charge should be proportional to time spent afloat? A rowing eight in use for four hours per week year round would then pay 4.6% as much as a similarly sized craft in the water for six months per year.
 
Perhaps I see this a little bit too simplistically but surely everybody should pay the appropriate amount? Why do a group of river users deserve a discount over an individual users?? :confused:

Lobby groups, BCU and British Rowing should not be allowed to forward an unfair agenda.

Alternatively perhaps we should ask the RYA or the TMBA to lobby the EA as well?? :D

Chris
 
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