Newbridge Virgo Voyager tiller

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Hi,
Any Virgo Voyager owners out there - do you have the measurements of the original tiller, or a photo? Previous owner has fitted a new one on ours and it's too short. Thanks in advance for any info!
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Jon
 
if you don't get any better replies sooner, there's a Virgo Voyager ashore at my club I could photograph with a tape measure - I'm going there tomorrow so will do this if I remember but rather busy - and I have a copy of the original brochure and sales offer paperwork you are welcome to scans of if you don't have this already.

Hard to tell from the angled brochure pics but the tiller looks quite long ( or the cockpit relatively short ) reaching up to at a guess 1' or less short of alongside the sheet winches ?

But as I say in case you don't get better info I'll try to remember to measure tomorrow.
 
The tiller in that photo does not seem to be correctly fitted into the stainless headstock, or as long as the one in the brochure appears - but as I say that brochure photo is from a poor aft angle - so I don't know if that example VicS found is to be relied on as standard, I hope not.
 
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Google Virgo Voyager images and you will get several cockpit shots showing a fairly long tiller with a distinct upward curve. However the Yachtsnet details show a shorter tiller although also with a distinct upward curve. The advantage of a loner tiller is greater leverage and a more forward steering position but limits space in the cockpit. Experiment with simple piece of wood to find a shape and length that suits you then make a proper tiller.
 
The idea of a raised, curved ' cranked ' tiller is to clear one's knees, cockpit seats etc, so an experimental stick would have to bear this into account; might as well find out what the original was and replicate that, fitted properly into the headstock.

I don't think one will need much leverage on a VV tiller but a longer tiller will give more of what little feel is going and maybe handier to reach for singlehanders especially with no autopilot - at the expense of sweeping the cockpit.

NB if fitting such an I suspect ' as designed ' longer tiller the autopilot mount and even electrical connection for it may have to be changed/ lengthened if they were fitted on your boat jrussil.
 
Seajet said:
if you don't get any better replies sooner, there's a Virgo Voyager ashore at my club I could photograph with a tape measure - I'm going there tomorrow so will do this if I remember but rather busy - and I have a copy of the original brochure and sales offer paperwork you are welcome to scans of if you don't have this already.

Hard to tell from the angled brochure pics but the tiller looks quite long ( or the cockpit relatively short ) reaching up to at a guess 1' or less short of alongside the sheet winches ?

But as I say in case you don't get better info I'll try to remember to measure tomorrow.
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Hi, that would be incredibly helpful if it's not too much trouble and you have time. Thank you very much! Likewise with the brochure etc. It's been hard to find this sort of information. If you have scans of this, I'd really appreciate it.
 
Forgot to say that I have a large piece of teak in the garage that may be big enough for a tiller. However, I'm not sure if this is suitable timber for tillers. Any thoughts on this? Thanks.
 
Seajet said:
The tiller in that photo does not seem to be correctly fitted into the stainless headstock, or as long as the one in the brochure appears - but as I say that brochure photo is from a poor aft angle - so I don't know if that example VicS found is to be relied on as standard, I hope not.
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Thanks VicS for the photo. Our tiller is probably about 6" shorter than that!
 
jrussill said:
Hi, that would be incredibly helpful if it's not too much trouble and you have time. Thank you very much! Likewise with the brochure etc. It's been hard to find this sort of information. If you have scans of this, I'd really appreciate it.
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Teak is a bit indulgent and wasteful if you are going to cut a curve. Normally for a curved tiller it is easier to laminate, often with alternate dark and light wood such as Douglas Fir and Mahogany. however it is your boat so make it in a way that suits you. It is pretty chunky so no problem with strength with just about any wood. Sensible then to varnish and make a canvas cover to protect it all the time you are not sailing. Will then probably outlast you!
 
jrussill said:
Forgot to say that I have a large piece of teak in the garage that may be big enough for a tiller. However, I'm not sure if this is suitable timber for tillers. Any thoughts on this? Thanks.
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Here is mine. Dont know what the wood is though. Ash ?

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jrussill said:
Hi, that would be incredibly helpful if it's not too much trouble and you have time. Thank you very much! Likewise with the brochure etc. It's been hard to find this sort of information. If you have scans of this, I'd really appreciate it.
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Hi Jrussil,

no problem; if you pm me your e-mail address I'll send scans of the brochure tomorrow afternoon ( Tuesday ) and any pics and measurements I get, via my e-mail.

Andy
 
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jrussil,

if you don't wish to pass on your e-mail privately I completely understand but I won't be able to pass on the photo's and brochure copies.

Anyway I had a look at the Virgo Voyager at the club and took pics, the tiller was in vertical raised position which was handy as I don't know the owner and wouldn't have gone aboard; anyway the tiller on this one is 27" to the first bolt of the stainless headstock; and as I suspected, on this one the tiller extends much further between the stainless cheek plates, 3 bolts worth - I couldn't access that to measure it but photographed it side on.

The tiller did look a bit short to me but then so is the cockpit so probably is standard.

Hope that helps.
 
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