Judders
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Newbridge Navigator 19\'
Please may I have forumites thoughts on the Newbridge Navigator 19'?
Please may I have forumites thoughts on the Newbridge Navigator 19'?
Newbridge Navigator 19'
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jonathankent
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
Have you still not decied which yacht to buy ???? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Have you still not decied which yacht to buy ???? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
mainmarine
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
I used to have a junk rigged one, it didn't sail very well with this rig, for more info try here: http://www.newbridge-nava.fsnet.co.uk/
I used to have a junk rigged one, it didn't sail very well with this rig, for more info try here: http://www.newbridge-nava.fsnet.co.uk/
Judders
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
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Have you still not decied which yacht to buy ???? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Nope. SWMBO fancies Chichester for family reasons, which means coming down to 19'. That's fine if I can have a Shrimper but they're a bit beyond my budget as yet.
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Nope. SWMBO fancies Chichester for family reasons, which means coming down to 19'. That's fine if I can have a Shrimper but they're a bit beyond my budget as yet.
FullCircle
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
I was also thinking of the Navigator, but it is v small, and did not have the reputation of a good sailer. I bought a Corribee, which was v.small, but sailed well.
However, a chum of mine bought a Leisure 20 which he weekended with 2 kids regularly, and it sailed OK even in bilge keel form.
One for sale here...
Leisure 20
I was also thinking of the Navigator, but it is v small, and did not have the reputation of a good sailer. I bought a Corribee, which was v.small, but sailed well.
However, a chum of mine bought a Leisure 20 which he weekended with 2 kids regularly, and it sailed OK even in bilge keel form.
One for sale here...
Leisure 20
VicS
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
You need a Seawych then. They do not sail as well as others you have mentioned but the accomodation is better than many. Almost all but a few of the later ones were home built so standards vary. You should be able to get a rough one for a song or a really good one for a bit over £3k. One guy sailed one around Britain and then to the Med and back. Usually a few for sale on the Website. At least one for sale in the yard where I am based.
Active OA as well.
I've never come across anyone who was unhappy with one, moved on to bigger perhaps but always happy with the 'wych. (Built mine in 1977/8 and still got it!)
You need a Seawych then. They do not sail as well as others you have mentioned but the accomodation is better than many. Almost all but a few of the later ones were home built so standards vary. You should be able to get a rough one for a song or a really good one for a bit over £3k. One guy sailed one around Britain and then to the Med and back. Usually a few for sale on the Website. At least one for sale in the yard where I am based.
Active OA as well.
I've never come across anyone who was unhappy with one, moved on to bigger perhaps but always happy with the 'wych. (Built mine in 1977/8 and still got it!)
Lakesailor
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
There's one next to me. It was sold last year and the new owner has spent a lot on it and it's back this year looking very, very smart.
This pic is the old, less smart version.
There is a very active owners club. http://www.seawych.org/
(Newbridge Navigator is less than agile)
There's one next to me. It was sold last year and the new owner has spent a lot on it and it's back this year looking very, very smart.
This pic is the old, less smart version.
There is a very active owners club. http://www.seawych.org/
(Newbridge Navigator is less than agile)
GrahamC
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
What's the connection between Chichister and 19 feet? If you are not limited to this length because of pressure on space for a mooring, at 21 feet loa there are better sailors and better accomodation in a Westerly Warwick, one for sale on Boats and Outboards
(Mine)
Grahan C
What's the connection between Chichister and 19 feet? If you are not limited to this length because of pressure on space for a mooring, at 21 feet loa there are better sailors and better accomodation in a Westerly Warwick, one for sale on Boats and Outboards
(Mine)
Grahan C
Scillypete
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
Given any thought to the Hurley 20, a far better sailing boat than the Newbridge navvy. At that size all are going to be an accomodation compromise but the Hurley is fairly well laid out and the cockpit is very generous size and a boom tent can mazimize this area in poor weather. Should be well within your budget as well.
Given any thought to the Hurley 20, a far better sailing boat than the Newbridge navvy. At that size all are going to be an accomodation compromise but the Hurley is fairly well laid out and the cockpit is very generous size and a boom tent can mazimize this area in poor weather. Should be well within your budget as well.
Judders
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
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What's the connection between Chichister and 19 feet? If you are not limited to this length because of pressure on space for a mooring, at 21 feet loa there are better sailors and better accomodation in a Westerly Warwick, one for sale on Boats and Outboards
(Mine)
Grahan C
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SWMB wants Chichester and if it's Chichester then I would prefer Itchenor. There are moorings available straight away for vessels less than 6 meters. 20' being 6.15 meters means I'm borderline on a number of boats which would interest me.
Her normally placid father has also sent me an e-mail saying "stop buggering about and just by a bloody boat". I think he is getting bored of my constant requests for advice.
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What's the connection between Chichister and 19 feet? If you are not limited to this length because of pressure on space for a mooring, at 21 feet loa there are better sailors and better accomodation in a Westerly Warwick, one for sale on Boats and Outboards
(Mine)
Grahan C
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SWMB wants Chichester and if it's Chichester then I would prefer Itchenor. There are moorings available straight away for vessels less than 6 meters. 20' being 6.15 meters means I'm borderline on a number of boats which would interest me.
Her normally placid father has also sent me an e-mail saying "stop buggering about and just by a bloody boat". I think he is getting bored of my constant requests for advice.
FullCircle
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
Father in law is sagacious.
The moorings have been there since before the advent of Metric measurement and were probably laid for 21ft but that doesn't trip off the tongue as easy as 6.107996 metres or whatever.
Live a little.
Father in law is sagacious.
The moorings have been there since before the advent of Metric measurement and were probably laid for 21ft but that doesn't trip off the tongue as easy as 6.107996 metres or whatever.
Live a little.
Judders
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
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Father in law is sagacious.
The moorings have been there since before the advent of Metric measurement and were probably laid for 21ft but that doesn't trip off the tongue as easy as 6.107996 metres or whatever.
Live a little.
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Full Circle you rapscallion, that still leaves twenty footers six inches too long!
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Father in law is sagacious.
The moorings have been there since before the advent of Metric measurement and were probably laid for 21ft but that doesn't trip off the tongue as easy as 6.107996 metres or whatever.
Live a little.
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Full Circle you rapscallion, that still leaves twenty footers six inches too long!
FullCircle
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
Alright, first lesson in persiflage coming up.
Buy a 21foot boat.
Say, for example, a Leeway 21.
Go to your local vinyl graphic shop.
Have the nice man knock you up a little design for the port and starboard aft quarter that announces the make and model of the boat.
Get him to make one for either side
Stick them on the boat.
It should say:
LEEWAY 600
Could be embellished with a little flash or backing.
Second ruse:
Most small boats are MAXIMISED for their length in the brochure to give the punter a warm feeling. Check the ACTUAL measurement LOA. It may help. If not, quote the waterline length to the mooring bloke.
Third Ruse:
Make the boat LOA a little shorter if possible with retracting bow roller, modified pushpit, removable rudder, slimmer outboard bracket. That sort of thing.
Alright, first lesson in persiflage coming up.
Buy a 21foot boat.
Say, for example, a Leeway 21.
Go to your local vinyl graphic shop.
Have the nice man knock you up a little design for the port and starboard aft quarter that announces the make and model of the boat.
Get him to make one for either side
Stick them on the boat.
It should say:
LEEWAY 600
Could be embellished with a little flash or backing.
Second ruse:
Most small boats are MAXIMISED for their length in the brochure to give the punter a warm feeling. Check the ACTUAL measurement LOA. It may help. If not, quote the waterline length to the mooring bloke.
Third Ruse:
Make the boat LOA a little shorter if possible with retracting bow roller, modified pushpit, removable rudder, slimmer outboard bracket. That sort of thing.
VicS
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
Yes I know a bit about this one. You put the pic on the forum for some reason some time ago and I put a link to it on the OA message board. The new owner has been in touch with me several times for advice. He saw the pic on the message board and I am one of the OA "technical advisers" for my sins. I'll PM you if you dont mind.
Yes I know a bit about this one. You put the pic on the forum for some reason some time ago and I put a link to it on the OA message board. The new owner has been in touch with me several times for advice. He saw the pic on the message board and I am one of the OA "technical advisers" for my sins. I'll PM you if you dont mind.
VicS
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
You don't seriously think we could getaway with any "ruses" in Chichester do you?
The "moorings bloke" is the Moorings Officer who is directly responsible to the Harbour Master and the Chichester Harbour Conservancy.
In Chichester you get away with nothing at least not with the Harbour Master although clubs and boat yards may be a bit more easy going.
There are very few mooorings available in the Harbour apart from some unattractive ones (no water), some deep water ones with very poor access and these few at Itchenor. In fact I am surprised they are suitable for the boats he is looking at. Heaven knows why Itchenor is his first choice of location in Chichester it would not be mine. I am based in a small boat yard where I can park the car and the dinghy for free, where I can be hauled out and laid up for very few £s, where the tide does not run through the moorings like it did not intend coming back again and where all the stinkpots do not roar through on their way to and from the marina. I must admit though that it is very popular, so popular in fact that the moorings cost more there than in other parts of the harbour.
The moorings are all categorised A, B, C, or D according to depth of water and classed 1, 2, 3, or 4 according to the boat length, 6m being the max authorised length for a Class 4 mooring.
You don't seriously think we could getaway with any "ruses" in Chichester do you?
The "moorings bloke" is the Moorings Officer who is directly responsible to the Harbour Master and the Chichester Harbour Conservancy.
In Chichester you get away with nothing at least not with the Harbour Master although clubs and boat yards may be a bit more easy going.
There are very few mooorings available in the Harbour apart from some unattractive ones (no water), some deep water ones with very poor access and these few at Itchenor. In fact I am surprised they are suitable for the boats he is looking at. Heaven knows why Itchenor is his first choice of location in Chichester it would not be mine. I am based in a small boat yard where I can park the car and the dinghy for free, where I can be hauled out and laid up for very few £s, where the tide does not run through the moorings like it did not intend coming back again and where all the stinkpots do not roar through on their way to and from the marina. I must admit though that it is very popular, so popular in fact that the moorings cost more there than in other parts of the harbour.
The moorings are all categorised A, B, C, or D according to depth of water and classed 1, 2, 3, or 4 according to the boat length, 6m being the max authorised length for a Class 4 mooring.
moondancer
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
Judders - you need some simple life coaching.
1) SWMBO is merely an advisory title. Smile sweetly nod then do what you want to do.
2) Never, ever buy a boat for a SWMBO. There are a few rare exceptions, indeed some fine ones on this forum, who actually enjoy sailing. Unfortunately the majority only last a short while.
I have made that mistake myself before and ended up with a boat that my SWMBO might have liked if she had enjoyed sailing!
Be selfish - buy something you want and sit on it on your own on the East Coast.
p.s. Your Father in Law was right. Just get on and bl**dy do it then tell us what you bought.
p.p.s. If you do end up kowtowing we have a Hurley 20....
Judders - you need some simple life coaching.
1) SWMBO is merely an advisory title. Smile sweetly nod then do what you want to do.
2) Never, ever buy a boat for a SWMBO. There are a few rare exceptions, indeed some fine ones on this forum, who actually enjoy sailing. Unfortunately the majority only last a short while.
I have made that mistake myself before and ended up with a boat that my SWMBO might have liked if she had enjoyed sailing!
Be selfish - buy something you want and sit on it on your own on the East Coast.
p.s. Your Father in Law was right. Just get on and bl**dy do it then tell us what you bought.
p.p.s. If you do end up kowtowing we have a Hurley 20....
fdmarsden
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
sent you a pm
sent you a pm
stevebirch2002
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
I owned one for a while and hated every minute! Sailed like a bungalow sideways. Just my opinion. Bilge keels had a problem as wll and started to splay.
I owned one for a while and hated every minute! Sailed like a bungalow sideways. Just my opinion. Bilge keels had a problem as wll and started to splay.
Topcat47
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Re: Newbridge Navigator 19\'
The navigatior is a great little marina queen. Loads of space for a 19 footer. While I wouldn't go so far as to say it sails like a brick........it does float after all.......it's NOT an exciting or particularly rewarding boat to sail. If all you want to do is potter around Chi Harbour it might be worth a look. I'd rather go for a Galleon if it were to be my boat tho'
The navigatior is a great little marina queen. Loads of space for a 19 footer. While I wouldn't go so far as to say it sails like a brick........it does float after all.......it's NOT an exciting or particularly rewarding boat to sail. If all you want to do is potter around Chi Harbour it might be worth a look. I'd rather go for a Galleon if it were to be my boat tho'